T. Liger-Belair, Roumier, Pavelot

[Rahsaan]

2004 Thibault Liger-Belair Nuits St. Georges Les Saint Georges
This starts off a bit forward and soft for my tastes. With air it pulls it together and shows fine-grained finesse and earthy bass inner inner inner tannins to balance off the supple and rippling fruit. Maybe a touch too glossy for me to fall in love but I liked the time I spent with this wine.

2004 Roumier Chambolle Musigny
At its best it shows a beautiful floral nose and then tastes like crystal crunchy silk fruits. Sure it is 'simple' village wine. But for this taster there was nothing to complain about and in fact plenty to enjoy. I just wish it were cheaper for what it delivers. But then maybe I'm a cheapskate.

2002 Domaine Pavelot Savigny Les Beaune Les Narbantons
Showing its ripe, dark, and round side, which might please some, but I couldn't help wishing it were a bit more precise and Chandon de Briailles-like. There is some nice complexity to the tannin finish and a good mineral backbone to give it respect. Regardless, the idiom is dark and spicey and I'm realizing my Savigny and Pernand money should be scratching the Chandon itch. But I digress...

 

[Bwood]

I sort of hate to see you leave the path of bargain bin fishing for good 15 yr old finds in Burgundy as it has made good reading, but I think this path of more recent vintage wines wines may provide more frequent success.

I don't think complaining about $65 (?) villages wines qualifies you for 'cheapskate" status, does it? I hope not. I've never wanted to think of myself as such.

 

[Andrew Zachary]

I recently had the "honor" to try a 2005 Thibault Liger-Belair Vosne Romanee Aux Reas. While certainly enjoyable as wine, I would have been very hard pressed to identify it as Vosne Romanee or even Burgundy. Mostly generic flavors with not much else of interest. I was disappointed because the wines from the Comte are superb. No one should confuse the two estates.

As for the prices on Roumier village wines, I think we can blame the distribution system along the way. I have heard that the prices ex-cellars are very reasonable, and if we could buy the wines directly from Diageo/Chateau & Estates (which we can't because of the stupid, idiotic, insane, bizarre 3-tier system) the prices would be much lower.

 

[Rahsaan]

originally posted by Bwood:
I don't think complaining about $65 (?) villages wines qualifies you for 'cheapskate" status, does it? I hope not. I've never wanted to think of myself as such.

Yes, I don't think it makes us cheapskates. This 04 was $45, but even there I would have preferred it lower. But I'm not holding my breath, especially because the 06 sitting next to it cost $99.

originally posted by Andrew Zachary:

a 2005 Thibault Liger-Belair Vosne Romanee Aux Reas. While certainly enjoyable as wine, I would have been very hard pressed to identify it as Vosne Romanee or even Burgundy.

FWIW, to my palate this 04 LSG tasted both like NSG and Burgundy. But it definitely seemed glossy in style.

 

[Ian Fitzsimmons]

Rahsaan:

Thanks for the notes. Have you tried Lafouge's red Auxey yet? I'd love to hear where it fits into your precision scale, relative to Chandon and Pavelot.

Ian

 

[Bwood]

originally posted by Rahsaan:

originally posted by Bwood:
I don't think complaining about $65 (?) villages wines qualifies you for 'cheapskate" status, does it? I hope not. I've never wanted to think of myself as such.

Yes, I don't think it makes us cheapskates. This 04 was $45, but even there I would have preferred it lower. But I'm not holding my breath, especially because the 06 sitting next to it cost $99.

$99 for village '06 burgundy. That seems crazy to me.

 

[Rahsaan]

originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
Rahsaan:

Have you tried Lafouge's red Auxey yet?

I think I've only had a Bourgogne from them, which was nice, but I'm sure others can provide more detailed comparative info.