Another northern Rhone syrah educational tasting

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Lee and Melissa Short and L and I trouped (trooped?) up to Bellingham to join Marc and MJ D and his Bellingham wine gang for some northern Rhones. By the end of night we were immersed in tales of lepidoptery north of the Arctic Circle, the best places in SE Oregon to drink beer on dirt roads, and other important topics.

The wines were excellent; but some of the latent preferences for northern Rhone prime time drinking continued in full tilt. This tasting for me was proof positive that top tier Rhones from blockier vintages really are happier with 15 - 20 years under them. As good as many of the wines were, to me they wanted a bit more time to round off some of the rougher edges. As time goes on I am impressed by the accuracy of JLLs drinkability assessments. But this is just me; Marc D may weigh in as I know his feelings are different. Vive la difference!

We actually started with a couple St. J rouges as aperitifs -

1998 Chave St. Joseph Estate - This was the first time I'd actually had this wine, and it was as I would expect - meat, dense, mineral, just slightly bitter. For me this really wanted some more time to unwind, and I am sure it will improve.

1997 JL Grippat Vignes de l'Hospice - This wine reappeared, this bottle a little off the last I had. It seemed a bit dumb and then came to life later in the evening. But I may have been distracted. This is absolutely prime drinking right now, with great mineral interplay.

We were a little disorganized and then moved into a couple of whites.

1994 Chave Hermitage blanc - Lovely wine. Very harmonious balance of licorice and honeyed minerality. With air gained power. Finished very dry and almost saline; it was really deceptive though because it carried great weight and glycerality. I loved it. Thanks to Serge and Warren, this was beyond the call of duty.

2003 Guigal St. Joseph Lieu dit St. Joseph - A disgusting concoction of coconut and oak. Repulsive.

Then into the meat of the evening, literally and figuratively.

1997 Duclaux CR - very corked.

1997 Ogier Belle Helene - A Guigal wannabee; I couldn't get past the wall of oak in the back end. I just don't get it.

1998 Burgaud CR - This is my fourth in the last year; each has been different. A couple were pretty bretty. This one was so clean and pure that Marc said it was Burgundian, and I agree. Lots of subtle dense flavors going on. There's a German jelly candy I don't know the name of that this reminded me of. Melissa's take was that this had a lot more to give; I think I agree but this didn't have any hard edges at this point either. Fantastic purity in this wine; makes me think of Levet.

1995 GAEC Vernay (Not Georges) CR - I liked this; nice emergent CR ashiness. I think this was right around the corner from prime time.

1996 Jaboulet Hermitage Chapelle - I was really disappointed by this; far too over oaked which just overwhelmed the 96 structure.

We then moved into some Cornas, which were showing off their earlier drinkability.

1998 Clape Cornas - Classic Clape, all the typical elements. This had been decanted which opened it up but I will hazard a guess and say that I also think this diminished it a bit and the expense of opening it up. I really felt that this needed a couple more year and not decanted.

1998 Verset Cornas - OK, this was the best red of the eve for me, by far, along with the 92 Belle. Will age longer but for me in prime. Classic complex elements of olives, earth, ash, fruit, just super. I will jump out and say this will top the Clape in its prime. A great example of why people consider Verset the king of Cornas.

1996 Verset Cornas - And here's an example of why people say Verset completely fell apart in the 90s. SO2, my old Adidas Roms from high school, stewed rubber from the 50s. Disgusting wine. Marc, this was just as bad yesterday.

1998 Allemand Chaillot - Total quality, but far too young.

1992 Belle C-H Cuvee Louis Belle - My last of a little pile. Wonderful, eye opening, liquid, complex leather/earth interplay, fanning out into a bouyant inner mouth perfume, not over the hill, a sit up wine. A little lost in the final haze of the evening but for me an absolute standout. Not anomolous, just at the right age! A great example of the quality northern Crozes can achieve.

2004 Mas Blanc Banyuls - A little too honeyed for my taste.

After Marc and MJ graciously hosted us for the night, we went for a great walk with Marc down to Bellingham harbor, and then headed out for a little birding on the way home. Stopped at Slough Food for picnic eating (Marc - he has some 03 Rousset Picaudieres!), we went to the Skagit west 90 T junction for some hawk watching. A pair of short eared owls trolled the fields, and we enjoyed a 1996 Chave Offerus. Just great with the meats from Slough Food. I will say, though, true to form, that it needs a few years to round off the catchy rough edges...
 
Re the 1996 Verset -- I think you just hit a bad bottle. I've had many bottles of this wine and thoroughly enjoyed each of them. He fell apart in the 1990s? That's the first I've ever heard anyone say it.

Re the Chave St-Jo -- at Chave, they drink it in the first couple of years and do not age it, although I have always found the wine to age extremely well. Maybe now that Chave is getting more serious about St-Jo he will admit that it ages.

Re the Jaboulet -- it was a weird period, those last few years before the family sold. Sometimes, the wine was really disappointing, sometimes not. Add to that the fact that there could be various cuves.
 
originally posted by Brad L i l j e q u i s t:
Another northern Rhone syrah educational tasting
1998 Burgaud CR - Fantastic purity in this wine

Over on WLDG, Jenise said this wine had a brandy note. Which is not something I associate with either purity or positive feelings about wine. But she liked it too so maybe my notion of brandy as a descriptor is skewed.. (I usually think alcoholic and unbalanced)
 
originally posted by Claude Kolm:
Re the 1996 Verset -- I think you just hit a bad bottle. I've had many bottles of this wine and thoroughly enjoyed each of them. He fell apart in the 1990s? That's the first I've ever heard anyone say it.

Re the Chave St-Jo -- at Chave, they drink it in the first couple of years and do not age it, although I have always found the wine to age extremely well. Maybe now that Chave is getting more serious about St-Jo he will admit that it ages.

Re the Jaboulet -- it was a weird period, those last few years before the family sold. Sometimes, the wine was really disappointing, sometimes not. Add to that the fact that there could be various cuves.

I think I misstated what I meant about Verset - more that there was huge bottle variability in the 90s, more specifically, bottling variability of several bottlings each year. I am not tracking the details, but I've heard several people speak specifically about very good and very bad bottlings of individual vintages.
 
Brad -- There were only two bottlings of Verset, and as far as I know, it was the same in the 1980s. He had two foudres. One foudre was bottled before the second summer following the vintage, and one after. As the two foudres were in Verset's garage above ground, Kermit Lynch always took the earlier bottling so it didn't sit through a second hot summer. The UK importers took the second bottling as they believed in the benefits of late bottling. I'm not sure about the other importers (primarily Japanese, Dutch, and Canadian, I believe).
 
I liked two of the Cornas wines a lot. The '96 Verset had a huge sulphur stink. The 98 Verset was a great bottle of Cornas, one of the best I've tried in my short career. The 1998 Allemand Chaillot was super tight and should be held for a few years. It had the most acid of the 3 Cornas wines. I thought the Clape was very solid, from start to finish. Maybe four square compared to the really floral and layered Verset, but I would be very happy to drink that Clape anytime.

The two St Joseph wines were a great contrast of the different vintages. The '98 Chave seemed to have very classic N Rhone flavors of smoke, meat, black olive and dark fruit in a nice little package. It was tight and I think will improve with 2-3 years. The '97 Grippat was really easy to drink, lush, sort of low acid. The ripeness bordered on New World, but it had some old world minerals.

The '94 Chave blanc was a stunner that kept changing for the positive over the first couple of hours. Apricot, then almond, honey, marzipan. Fantastic texture, rich without being hot, and really long finish. At 3 hours it started to fall apart with oxidized apple cider flavors. But still, wow.

The Ogier Belle Helene started with a blast of fruit and oak but dropped off pretty quickly and had little finish.

The Jaboulet La Chapelle was very tannic and drying at the finish. Maybe with time it will come around, but it was underwhelming.

I loved the '92 Louis Belle CH.

Those Golden Eyes are quite stunning birds. Glad you had a good trip home.
 
great notes....that chave hermitage sounds delectable, as do several others. envious about the skagit birding...it's been awhile since i've been up there...and i've yet to see a short-eared owl but they sure look lovely in photos. lucky you.
 
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They have a really great flight pattern - really deep strokes combined with a glide - a singular bird.
 
originally posted by Brad L i l j e q u i s t:
They have a really great flight pattern - really deep strokes combined with a glide - a singular bird.

what a pleasure to witness that. your flight description brings to mind one other bird -the harrier, which i've seen often down in nisqually. habitat seems similar too.
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by Brad L i l j e q u i s t:
Another northern Rhone syrah educational tasting
1998 Burgaud CR - Fantastic purity in this wine

Over on WLDG, Jenise said this wine had a brandy note. Which is not something I associate with either purity or positive feelings about wine. But she liked it too so maybe my notion of brandy as a descriptor is skewed.. (I usually think alcoholic and unbalanced)
Rahsaan,
The Burgaud was a very clean wine with the exception of a little volatile acetone. There were no Bretty or dirty flavors. It did have a little prune or cooked fruit element to the nose that I noticed. I'm not sure if that is what Jenise meant by the brandy reference. It wasn't hot or alcoholic. I liked the wine too, although it is in a little bit difficult adolescent phase; not youthful, but not mature yet either.
 
originally posted by Marc D:
The Burgaud was a very clean wine with the exception of a little volatile acetone. There were no Bretty or dirty flavors. It did have a little prune or cooked fruit element to the nose that I noticed. I'm not sure if that is what Jenise meant by the brandy reference. It wasn't hot or alcoholic. I liked the wine too, although it is in a little bit difficult adolescent phase; not youthful, but not mature yet either.

As you may have seen, she responded with the following on WLDG:

but I do clearly recall scrambling to find a descriptor to capture something both sharp and sweet and perhaps cask-y in a way that excluded problems like oxidation and stewed fruit.
 
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