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originally posted by Chris Coad:
Specks floating, yes, if you are not careful opening it, the wax seal can chip and red wax floaters get in the glass.
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Not the wax capsule, what I meant is that the '93 is full of floating debris; if you hold an unopened bottle up to the light it can look like a snow globe in there.
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No floating debris, then.
 
I think of "leathery" as code for brett, against which I would defend the '07. Haven't had the '06 lately. The '07 last night was brett-free and very pretty, although I am a bit worried about storage in that restaurant.
 
originally posted by Florida Jim:
Chris,
While translucent to be sure, the 2006 is not salmon colored nor did I notice anything floating. I always think of pomegranate when smelling and tasting this bottle. It is bright in the mouth but pretty well balanced and this vintage is not as funky/leathery as some others (2007 comes to mind).
Mistaken for pineau d'aunis? Maybe.
I'd like to think it a bit fleshier but, maybe.
Best, Jim
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We drank a bottle of the 2007 last week, and I didn't find it particularly leathery or funky. Bright, yes; red-fruited, yes. It also had a rosemary note on the nose and a little spritziness. I've only tried one previous vintage, but I'd have to check my notes to see if it was the 2004 or 2006. The 2007 was a bit more crisp than I recall that earlier vintage.

I concur with Marc D that I wouldn't confuse it with Pineau d'Aunis, which I find has a peppery note that I don't get in Poulsard.
 
originally posted by Steve Guattery:


I concur with Marc D that I wouldn't confuse it with Pineau d'Aunis, which I find has a peppery note that I don't get in Poulsard.
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Pepper and often something green. Someone wrote agave in a tasting note, which for some reason seems to fit for Pineau d'Aunis.
 
about color: white wines with a greenish tinge often have more acidity to my palate than those without said tinge

about Verget to Guffens-Heynen: the Verget wines are often more taut, and the G-H wines lusher and rounder. I think it is basically down to very low yields with the owned vineyards. I think a lot of people are apt to write off one or the other or both. I tend to find that, in general, the wines require more time to really show well than they are given by commentators, and that in both ranges there are vastly overpriced mediocrities and haunting beauties from the same vintages and nearby sites. It really helps to taste through if you have the opportunity. I would also note that a lot of the objections to Verget re: too much oak, are in reference to grapes from Chablis. Also, steer clear of '03 and Verget as a combination.

The Verget Saint-Bris was long a favorite of mine, but I haven't had it lately.

I would say that when a bottle of Verget comes together it can be very beautiful. And that Guffens-H can at time inspire thoughts of "this is great Burgundy". Just that this isn't a consistent or even predictable experience.
 
originally posted by Levi Dalton:

about Verget to Guffens-Heynen: the Verget wines are often more taut, and the G-H wines lusher and rounder. I think it is basically down to very low yields with the owned vineyards. I think a lot of people are apt to write off one or the other or both. I tend to find that, in general, the wines require more time to really show well than they are given by commentators, and that in both ranges there are vastly overpriced mediocrities and haunting beauties from the same vintages and nearby sites. It really helps to taste through if you have the opportunity. I would also note that a lot of the objections to Verget re: too much oak, are in reference to grapes from Chablis. Also, steer clear of '03 and Verget as a combination.

The Verget Saint-Bris was long a favorite of mine, but I haven't had it lately.

I would say that when a bottle of Verget comes together it can be very beautiful. And that Guffens-H can at time inspire thoughts of "this is great Burgundy". Just that this isn't a consistent or even predictable experience.
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Thanks, Levi. That's quite interesting...last year, I tasted thru a few verget 04's and 05's in the lower-mid price ranges to do just what you said. Some of those I found to be pretty lush themselves (I was surprised by the overt "fruitiness" of many, actually). Of the group, the most basic macon-villages stood out for it's tautness and balance, and I liked the montbrisson as well....others in the lineup, tho higher priced, did not seem better, just more full blown. Maybe, as you say, the wines needs some time to show well, so I've thrown a couple in the back of the cellar to check in on later.
 
originally posted by Levi Dalton:
Anybody who likes pale rose should be drinking Sella rosato frequently and often.
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Hey, some of us did in your shop last week. And tasty it was.
 
Jim,

The Dom. Roally, Mcon-Vir-Cless Tradition was actually a 2005; which to my mind makes it even more amazing that it was drinking so well so early.
bill
 
originally posted by SFJoe:
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:

Don't you be dissin' on Fiefs Vendens.
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Oops, sorry.

I meant to taste some yesterday at the Jolyfest, but ran out of time.
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the st nicolas were drinking very nicely. i have always enjoyed the clous...
 
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