Kind of blue

Thor

Thor Iverson
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Were in a car, driving into the hills, with people weve never met. Ive seen this horror plot at the cinema, and it never ends well for the passengers. Its true that our hosts dont seem particularly threateningbut Im sure thats just what they want us to think.

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Tahbilk 1999 Marsanne (Central Victoria) Honey, but more verdant than that. Honeysuckle might be more accurate. Rich peach flavors, well-spiced, rest over a foundation of clay. Nice early maturity, though theres no hurry. Quite appealing. (3/05)

Peregrine 2004 Ros (Central Otago) A non-saigne ros of pinot noir. Sand and strawberry start light, but develop hints of complexity with air. That said, it neither aspires to nor achieves elevation. Nice enough, but ultimately forgettable. (3/05)

Henschke 1990 Mount Edelstone (Eden Valley) Rich and mature, showing some of the familiar soy, but this time infused with black pepper and soaking into the wines leathery texture. Theres blackberry and a good measure of black dirt as well. Starts sorta triangular, but as it airs it reforms into a more appealing roundness. The finish is long and earthy, with beautiful morel and black trumpet enhancements. And a hint of vanilla, perhaps? Fully developed. Very good, though I dont think Id hold it any longer. (3/05)

AP Birks Wendouree 1997 Shiraz (Clare Valley) Shocking. Thats mostly a comment about the nose, which is a little insane: blackberry dust, volatility, and a huge stonking wallop of eucalyptus. Its as if someone distilled the air in the Blue Mountains into shiraz form. Once one gets past the eucalypt, however, theres a lot more to discover: the darkest possible black fruit streaked with anise, a dusty tannin that develops increasing bitterness as the wine lingers (and boy, does it linger), though eventually this bitter streak starts to grate a bit. Striking and incredibly individualistic. Probably not mature, but I have absolutely no baseline for that judgment. Im not sure I would say its a great wine, nor would I want to drink it every night, but I absolutely love it. All wines should have this much character. (3/05)

Seppelt 1939 Para Liqueur (South Australia) One of the first press tastings to which I was ever invited was a Southcorp portfolio event that toured the U.S. Each represented producer was asked to bring something from their library stock. Seppelt brought two. The first was an aged sparkling shiraz, which I didnt know was possible before that bottle. And the second was a Para Liqueur from the very late 1800s (the date is lost to memory). I still remember that wine: fig syrup, molasses, balsamic vinegar (the real stuff, not a cheap knockoff), and finish that seemed to last for hours. I mean that literally: two hours later, back at my desk, I could still taste the wine.

Thus, theres extra meaning for me in this bottle, which is incredibly rare and an expression of remarkable generosity on the part of our hosts. It tastes of pure distilled brownness, dusty/particulate and burnished with antiquity, but still alive with remarkable intensity and persistence. Theres brown sugar, molasses, the sharp cling of balsamic something-or-other, to be surebut also, a lively hint of honeydew melon, and a perfect note of bitterness contrapuntal to all the well-aged sugar. The finish is beyond incredibly long, its endless. An absurdly great wine. (3/05)
 
I believe it's mostly shiraz, with some grenache and mataro, but I'm sure someone out there knows for sure.
 
originally posted by Thor:
Kind of blue
Probably not mature, but I have absolutely no baseline for that judgment. Im not sure I would say its a great wine, nor would I want to drink it every night, but I absolutely love it. All wines should have this much character.
Wendourees are supposed to be tannic brutes. Opened a 99 Shiraz/Mataro this weekend with David Bueker and the structure in that wine was almost overpowering at points. Absolutely stunning aromatics, but had the mouthfeel of a barrel sample at one point when I opened it (and had only softened a bit after a few hours in a decanter). Agree that it's not something that could be drunk every night, but those wines are really singular, unique pleasures.
Great notes - those Shirazes and that Seppelt in particular sound amazing.

Cheers,

Salil
 
Gents, every vintage on that page points to a PDF with the vinous vitals.

Thor, 1939 is neither 100 years after the first such barrel nor more than 100 years ago from now. It did not seem pertinent.
 
Actually, it is, because the link you provided was to the younger versions of the wine, while the vintage-dated releases (which mine was) are more of the kind described in the link I provided.

Not a huge difference, but a slight difference.
 
Although I was momentarily disappointed because I thought I would get to listen to Miles again, the post was intersting with some great photos. If you get more detailed info on the Para I would be interested in reading.
By the way I heard Kind of Blue in it's entirety live with some friends many years ago in a joint in Hollywood that doesn't exist anymore. We went on a Saturday night and the album hadn't been release yet so all the #'s were totally new to us. My best description would be that we were all orgasmic listening to the group that evening. We came back on Sunday night (group only there a few days) and listened till the joint closed again at 2am, rode home went to sleep about 4am got up at 6:30 am went to work. As you get older certain things stick in your mind and that's one of them. My main man for many years was Trane. Died to young.
 
Let's talk Oz wine. It seems a subject few get orgasmic about lately.

Wendouree is one of those codeword wines. If you know about it and drop the name in the appropriate crowd (invariably Aussies) they'll know that you know about Australian wine. Then you can go back to drinking your Mollydooker or Ringland without interference from the local punters. Mentioning Wendouree to the right people is similar to proclaiming your love of Clos Roche Blanche (or Pineau d'Aunis in general) at a Wine Disorder jeebus- it establishes that you've been around the block a few times and that your tastes are anything but plebian and that you'll put up with a little bit of discomfort to better enjoy what you're drinking.

Wendouree is indeed tannic as all hell, and the wines usually take 20+ years to mellow out. They remind me of pre-Ravier Tempier in a lot of ways, or the 1960s rock music scene in Peru. A little pain is okay if it leads to a happy ending. And Wendouree offers plenty of happy endings, at least if you're patient. Their Shiraz is probably the benchmark wine but I like the blends a lot too. They're the only wines I bring back with me on visits to Australia, and I have some of the above-mentioned 1997's due to the fact that this was the vintage that happened to be in the bin when someone on the list died and the heirs decided to trade his wine cellar for lots of beer. At 12 years old I reckon that the wine is just starting to show what it's about but that it'll evolve for quite some time.

Other than the fact that it's not exported to the USA, it's downside is that the bottles that do show up here are stupid-expensive. You could almost buy premier cru Burgundy for what a bottle of Wendouree costs. It's one of the few Aussie cult wines that's cultish there but not here. If you want to delve even a little deeper into obscure-land, you'd be wise to seek out anything from a winery called Galah. Winemaker Stephen George is also the consulting winemaker at Wendouree and quite some time ago he worked out a metayage agreement with the Birks family and is able to source fruit from the same vineyards that the Wendouree grapes come from. The Galah wines tend to be a little more forward than the Wendouree releases but they have the same rustic kick that enables them to age seemingly forever. They're probably about as old world as anything gets in Australia.

I am also a big van of the wines made by Stephen George at his Ashton Hills winery - he makes great Pinot Noir under that label as well as my favorite sparkling shiraz in all of Australia. The climate in the Adelaide Hills is very good for grape growing.

-Eden (I bet nobody would have bet that they'd ever read the words "favorite sparkling shiraz" on Wine Disorder)
 
originally posted by Lou Kessler:
Kind of BlueAlthough I was momentarily disappointed because I thought I would get to listen to Miles again, the post was intersting with some great photos. If you get more detailed info on the Para I would be interested in reading.
By the way I heard Kind of Blue in it's entirety live with some friends many years ago in a joint in Hollywood that doesn't exist anymore. We went on a Saturday night and the album hadn't been release yet so all the #'s were totally new to us. My best description would be that we were all orgasmic listening to the group that evening. We came back on Sunday night (group only there a few days) and listened till the joint closed again at 2am, rode home went to sleep about 4am got up at 6:30 am went to work. As you get older certain things stick in your mind and that's one of them. My main man for many years was Trane. Died to young.

whoah...i'd pass up any wine to have had that experience. i prefer trane's playing around this era, and cannonball was great in this setting as well. who was on piano?
 
Eden,

I admire your depth of experience with and knowledge of Oz wines.

Mine has come mostly at tastings where folks have brought either the most highly touted or the least expensive. In 95% of those times, I have disliked the wines - to the point of dumping them out.
The other 5% have been anywhere from acceptable to delicious.
Were I more diligent, I'm sure I could learn enough about them to get a somewhat better average.
But, I'm not.

So they have pretty much disappeared from my radar screen - I have one bottle in the cellar (an old Grange that I will likely never drink).
Maybe if I worked someplace where we sat down and tasted often. Or maybe if I moved there.
But living as I do, I don't think I'll ever get around to even bothering.

Not the most open of minds, I suppose . . .
Best, Jim
 
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