CWD: Some questions

Yixin

Yixin
Some really nice wines with friends over the weekend, consumed slowly with copious amounts of food (not always appropriate - Indian and Chinese, much of it spicy and difficult to pair). Most of them were probably opened at the wrong time - but I'll like to see if others have had similar experiences with these wines.

2003 Dom. de Bongran Macon-Villages Cuve Tradition - intense fruit, some sweetness on the palate and good acidity, but didn't do it for me. I've enjoyed other vintages which had fruit draped over a more obvious frame - this was a bit plump tasting except in the finish.

2005 Tenuta delle Terre Nerre Rosso - frankly delicious, with a complex nose of spring in the mountains, and finesse on the palate despite lots of acidity. I could drink this quite happily on a regular basis.

2000 G. Mascarello Barolo Monprivato - took 24 hours in a decanter to open up and even then we finished it too quickly. Patience required, and I fear that its backbone might prove too much over the long run.

2004 Texier CdP blanc - flowers, pretty, but also semi-closed. Needs time; has barely budged from release.

1996 Duval-Leroy "Femme" - open, bustling, rich and somewhat blowsy champagne. Terrific as an aperitif, as long as one expects commercial-style Champagne.

1998 Coudoulet de Beaucastel - I think it's closed, some others reckon it's past its best. Alcohol pokes through on the finish, but there's still plenty of stuffing. Will check back in 3-5 years time.
 
Yixin, that was the regular Etna Rosso? I just picked up some '05 Calderara Sottana and haven't tried it yet but your note is encouraging.
 
originally posted by Bill Buitenhuys:
Yixin, that was the regular Etna Rosso? I just picked up some '05 Calderara Sottana and haven't tried it yet but your note is encouraging.

You grabbed an excellent wine.

The entire line is fabulous, IMO. And they were well priced. The olive oil is worth grabbing as well.
 
originally posted by Bill Buitenhuys:
Yixin, that was the regular Etna Rosso? I just picked up some '05 Calderara Sottana and haven't tried it yet but your note is encouraging.

Yes. Both the Guardiola and Calderara are good wines as well.
 
Never heard of a cuvee above the Guardiola at that price point, is it new? How's it an upgrade over the Guardiola which is also 100% pre-phylloxera?

The standard Etna Rosso is the one I find to perform best when you open them now. The Guardiola is just ferociously tannic.
 
originally posted by Keith Levenberg:
Never heard of a cuvee above the Guardiola at that price point, is it new? How's it an upgrade over the Guardiola which is also 100% pre-phylloxera?

The standard Etna Rosso is the one I find to perform best when you open them now. The Guardiola is just ferociously tannic.

Keith, this is a new cuvee for 2006, so Terre Nerre now has 8 wines:
2 biancos, a rosato, and the Etna Rosso's: the basic, the 3 cuvees - Guardiola (not exclusively pre-phylloxera), Feudo di Mezzo, Caldera Sottana, and now, their pre-phylloxera nerello mascalese called Dom Pepino, new in 2006.
 
originally posted by MarkS:
The entire line is fabulous, IMO. And they were well priced.

But they are creeping up towards $40 now, and the old-vine pre-phyllox cuvee at $90 is pushing it.

Well, they were $35 last time I bought and that seems pretty decent for good Sicilian wine which has become the new ridiculously priced wine. Taking over for Bierzo (anyone remember those).

Have probably fucked themselves.
 
originally posted by MarkS:
originally posted by Keith Levenberg:
Never heard of a cuvee above the Guardiola at that price point, is it new? How's it an upgrade over the Guardiola which is also 100% pre-phylloxera?

The standard Etna Rosso is the one I find to perform best when you open them now. The Guardiola is just ferociously tannic.

Keith, this is a new cuvee for 2006, so Terre Nerre now has 8 wines:
2 biancos, a rosato, and the Etna Rosso's: the basic, the 3 cuvees - Guardiola (not exclusively pre-phylloxera), Feudo di Mezzo, Caldera Sottana, and now, their pre-phylloxera nerello mascalese called Dom Pepino, new in 2006.

Pre-phylloxera or planted in phylloxera resistant soils? There is a difference. Are there really a bunch of 150 year old vineyards running around? I'm skeptical.
 
Pre-phylloxera or planted in phylloxera resistant soils?
There is a difference.

Well...d-duh. Of course I am not here to sell you a $90 bottle of wine.

Are there really a bunch of 150 year old vineyards running around?

Yixin's right: at that age, they're not running. They are probably walking. Very. Slowwwly.

I'm skeptical.

The financial world needs more people like you. Thomas Sunday is coming up soon, perhaps this would be a good time to stick your hands on those vines and feel those roots with your own, bare hands. Only then will you believe.
 
originally posted by MarkS:
I'm skeptical.

The financial world needs more people like you. Thomas Sunday is coming up soon, perhaps this would be a good time to stick your hands on those vines and feel those roots with your own, bare hands. Only then will you believe.

It might have helped.

I might be in DC Friday evening.
 
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