Mediocre except for Marc

[VLM]

originally posted by Marc D:

originally posted by VLM:

The Breton wines are pretty tannic in 2005 and 2006. I found the 2005 Trinch! a bit charmless.

The 2004 Nuits D'Ivresse is drinking well right now and I've been drinking my 2004 Galichets and Beaumont, both of which I prefer.

The 2004 Baudry Domain is joyous.

It was very interesting tasting young vintages of Breton next to Baudry last Wednesday in Seattle. The young Breton Bourgueil wines were dark and tough to get a feel for, although I thought the '06 Perrieres was a step ahead of the rest.
The Baudry wines were friendly, with softer tannins and were easy to get a feel for in a short tasting. I'm guessing a little of it has to be the Bourgueil vineyards vs Chinon, but also there must be some different techniques involved.

I don't really know and would love your perspective, since you visit both Domaines.

It is more than just the Bourgueil/Chinon difference. The wines are made in different ways. I think the reason that the 2006 Perrieres showed so well (it did for me as well) is that it is made in a more "traditional" fashion.

The "little" wines from Breton were a bit more tannic than they would have liked, I think, in 2005 and 2006. BTW, Matthieu felt the same way about the Granges.

 

[SFJoe]

originally posted by VLM:
Briords and agingLet's not get carried away.

Yes, the 1988 can be magnificent, but not every vintage does this. I have no 2006 in the cellar and won't cellar 2007. I'm getting into my 2004s and haven't touched my 2005s. 2008 will be one for the cellar. I am sitting on a few 2002s, but that's as far back as it goes. I'd love to have some 1996 and the 1995 showed well this year at Marc's.

I disagree with David about never having had a mature Briords.

I don't have any '06 either, but I am a big '07 fan and a bit dubious about '08.

I'm getting in to my '02s. I think it's time to drink '97. I should probably drink '94.

An '88 the night before last was a thing of great beauty, as was the '96.

 

[VLM]

originally posted by SFJoe:

originally posted by VLM:
Briords and agingLet's not get carried away.

Yes, the 1988 can be magnificent, but not every vintage does this. I have no 2006 in the cellar and won't cellar 2007. I'm getting into my 2004s and haven't touched my 2005s. 2008 will be one for the cellar. I am sitting on a few 2002s, but that's as far back as it goes. I'd love to have some 1996 and the 1995 showed well this year at Marc's.

I disagree with David about never having had a mature Briords.

I don't have any '06 either, but I am a big '07 fan and a bit dubious about '08.

I'm getting in to my '02s. I think it's time to drink '97. I should probably drink '94.

An '88 the night before last was a thing of great beauty, as was the '96.

1988 was too early for me. My few 1996s, unfortunately gone. 2002 is looking like the best recent vintage to me.

I think 2008 is better than 2007 in some respects. You were sick. Besides, Marc agrees with me. 2008 is the best vintage he has to sell.

The one that showed really well at Marc's this year, and was a surprise, was the 1995. That bottle showed better than the bottle of 1996.

 

[Ian Fitzsimmons]

FWIW, we've been drinking the 06 Briords off and on for the past year or so. They were closed for a bit, but we had one two nights ago that was open for current drinking and in lovely, lemony, mineral form.

 

[VLM]

originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
FWIW, we've been drinking the 06 Briords off and on for the past year or so. They were closed for a bit, but we had one two nights ago that was open for current drinking and in lovely, lemony, mineral form.

For sure. Hit it where it's at. Don't expect an elegant evolution, IMO.