Bertrand Gautherot Vouette et Sorbe Saigne de Sorbe Extra Brut

john McCarthy

john McCarthy
I just recently had this Champagne for the first time and was curious about anyone else's experience with this producer. Very unusual Champagne. Upon opening this was tight as a drum but with about 15-30mins of air in opened up a little more with pronounced notes of sour Bing Cherries. (It reminded me a little of Rodenbach Beer) Still very bracing and wound up it seemed like it could use a few years in the bottle to resolve itself. Does anyone else have some experience with these wines? I'm curious about where these champagnes will go? Will they flesh out a little bit with some bottle age?
 
had it for lunch in paris recently.....very dark,lacking a little acidity and brightness to my taste,tannic,not exactly lambrusco like as you can still identify the pinot noir,but definitely an unusual texture for champagne as far as i know.
 
John, your reaction is interesting. I had thought of this as something to drink younger; it has a kind of edgy, sulfurless ranginess that I adore. Unusual, yes, because the saigne method makes for meaty ros champagnes. It reminds me of (good) Beaujolais Nouveau with bubbles, but with more depth and persistence.
 
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
John, your reaction is interesting. I had thought of this as something to drink younger; it has a kind of edgy, sulfurless ranginess that I adore. Unusual, yes, because the saigne method makes for meaty ros champagnes. It reminds me of (good) Beaujolais Nouveau with bubbles, but with more depth and persistence.

I did like the edgy quality of the wine quite a bit and the wine was good...I guess my main issue was the bottle that I had seemed kind of closed down and I wasn't sure if it was the style of these Champagnes to shut down or if it was just the bottle that I opened. (It was from last year's disgorgement/ 2005 Vintage) I was looking for a little more body and aromatics then I got. It did open a bit but it still seemed a little shy, which was not what I expected after reading a little about these Champagnes...the ros in particular. What are you thought on the other wines from Bertrand Gautherot? I'd love to get your impression.
 
Actually, on second thought, I've had this wine always soon after disgorgement. Then I remember a caviste telling me, when I wanted to pick another one up, that he had just tasted it and it was v. closed at the moment. So I can see your point being true.

As for his other wines, I absolutely adore the Blanc d'Argile. I posted about it on my blog some time back (last August, I believe). Had another bottle in December (also at Le Verre Vol in Paris) and it was just as gorgeous.
 
Opened on in December...

I don't remember all the details anymore, but I do remember that it was dark, by masseration???, and interesting...very different...good earth notes, yet didn't excel in anything to really draw me to it -- didn't have a lot of elegance or complexity...but it was "different".

I made a mental note to open for wine geek....but by no means others.

-mark
 
These resurrected threads with similar dates, though they honor some form of Christian festival, are also somewhat disconcerting.

Nicely done, Jay Miller.
 
originally posted by Mark Davis:
Opened on in December...

I made a mental note to open for wine geek....but by no means others.

-mark

that was pretty much my thought too. While the non-geeks at the table liked it they weren't as enthusiastic as I was.
 
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
These resurrected threads with similar dates, though they honor some form of Christian festival, are also somewhat disconcerting.

Nicely done, Jay Miller.

Thank you, thank you. The 2004 Vilmart Rubis last night originally suffered from being poured next to the Vouette. It seemed simple and overly sweet in comparison. Some air and not drinking it immediately after a very dry wine helped a lot and it was one of my favorites of the night. A weightless cotton candy of a wine.
 
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