2006 Coudert Fleurie

[Bwood]

I've been rushing to finish off most of my 2006 Cru Beaujolais. It's a reasonable enough vintage but one or two of the wines I bought have sort of been wearing their welcome on me in recent months.

But tonight we are drinking Coudert's 2006 Fleurie for the second time in the past week. At first there was that thing on the nose and palate that Mr. Dressner once told me meant the soil is iron-deficient or manganese-deficient or something-deficient, but once again after thirty minutes of being open, the wine seems like nearly perfect Fleurie. Ok, there's maybe this mineral/vitamin-deficiency issue that I can't remember and also a slight overripeness on the nose, but otherwise this is very good.

And while I might prefer slightly more red-fruitedness, for 2006 this Fleurie is about as good as it gets in 2006 Cru Beaujolais. Not overly heavy and precise (considering, that is).

 

[SFJoe]

It's extra manganese. Should really be part of Moulin-a-vent.

 

[Bwood]

originally posted by SFJoe:
It's extra manganese. Should really be part of Moulin-a-vent.

So the story is the vineyard is extra-rich in manganese and bigger and more Moulin-a-Vent-ish than Fleurie-ish? More ferric on the nose?

 

[SFJoe]

originally posted by Bwood:

originally posted by SFJoe:
It's extra manganese. Should really be part of Moulin-a-vent.

So the story is the vineyard is extra-rich in manganese and bigger and more Moulin-a-Vent-ish than Fleurie-ish? More ferric on the nose?

So they say. I've never been.

 

[Marc D]

Jb, I drank the 2006 Chermette Fleurie Poncie over the last two nights. I know the preferences for the Cuvee Traditonelle vs the single crus, and feel the same way for the most part. The thing I want to mention is that this is in a perfect drinking spot at the moment, and I enjoyed it even with the riper nose. Also I am not sure this will improve much more with aging.

I like the '06 Coudert, but maybe the 2007 even more. I just got the 07 Tardive but from a taste last week I would say it needs more time. With Beaujolais, even 6 months can make a difference.

What did you think about the 2006 Thivin Cote de Brouilly? Was that the one that wore out its welcome?

 

[Ian Fitzsimmons]

I think there is some info on this in Joe Dressner's site on the Coudert page. Coudert's bit of Fleurie was previously part of Moulin-a-Vent and was capriciously re-classified. Consequently, you'd expect this to be a wine to hang onto for several years, even in 2006.

 

[Bwood]

originally posted by Marc D:
Jb, I drank the 2006 Chermette Fleurie Poncie over the last two nights. I know the preferences for the Cuvee Traditonelle vs the single crus, and feel the same way for the most part. The thing I want to mention is that this is in a perfect drinking spot at the moment, and I enjoyed it even with the riper nose. Also I am not sure this will improve much more with aging.

I like the '06 Coudert, but maybe the 2007 even more. I just got the 07 Tardive but from a taste last week I would say it needs more time. With Beaujolais, even 6 months can make a difference.

What did you think about the 2006 Thivin Cote de Brouilly? Was that the one that wore out its welcome?

Oh, I agree on the '07 Coudert for sure. Extremely awkward at first but evolving quickly into something very good.

Haven't tried the Thivin. I've never been a Thivin fan.

I'd like to try the '06 Poncie again. Maybe Fla. Jim will open a bottle for me some time.

I got a little tired of the Brun '06 Cote de Brouilly, but mostly I got a little tired of the '06 Tete Julienas, which is almost always a personal favorite. Shocking.

 

[CNSmith]

No notes on '07 Poncie yet.

Popped a '06 Poncie a couple nights ago.
It may have lost some of its cut on release, but still a very delicious wine.

And it still kicks Oregon's ass for $20 Pinot.

 

[Frank Deis]

I suppose that would be the eastern part, over to the right?

 

[MLipton]

originally posted by Frank Deis:
Oregon's ass
I suppose that would be the eastern part, over to the right?

Most Portlanders would say so, Frank. I take it that that map was colored by rainfall totals? FWIW, E Oregon is quite an interesting place to explore, if proximity to Mormons doesn't present you with problems. I remember with particular fondness the town of Fossil, where the hillside above the local High School's athletic field is literally awash in fossils for the taking, and Malheur NWR is quite the place for birders. And then of course there's the proximity to the Snake River Gorge for that white water experience (as opposed to Whitewater, which none of us wish to experience again) you've always dreamed of.

Mark Lipton
(preparing to reveal the mysteries of organic reaction mechanisms to a group of befuddled undergrad engineers)

 

[Jeff Grossman]

Better?

 

[SFJoe]

originally posted by MLipton:

(preparing to reveal the mysteries of organic reaction mechanisms to a group of befuddled undergrad engineers)

You're doing the Noodle's work.

 

[Ruben Ramos]

originally posted by CNSmith:
No notes on '07 Poncie yet.

Popped a '06 Poncie a couple nights ago.
It may have lost some of its cut on release, but still a very delicious wine.

And it still kicks Oregon's ass for $20 Pinot.

I've never had a '07 Poncie but I have enjoyed a 2006 Vincent from Wahle vineyard that was excellent for less than $20. And Grochau Cellars Commuter Cuve (sourced from recently deceased Gary Andrus' Gypsy Dancer Winery) is very good value for the cost.

 

[CNSmith]

It looks to me that the ass is more southwest, at the end of the beige dump.

 

[Arjun Mendiratta]

And pointed in the general direction of California.

 

[BJ]

originally posted by MLipton:
Exploring Oregon's Ass

originally posted by Frank Deis:
Oregon's ass
I suppose that would be the eastern part, over to the right?

Most Portlanders would say so, Frank. I take it that that map was colored by rainfall totals? FWIW, E Oregon is quite an interesting place to explore, if proximity to Mormons doesn't present you with problems. I remember with particular fondness the town of Fossil, where the hillside above the local High School's athletic field is literally awash in fossils for the taking, and Malheur NWR is quite the place for birders. And then of course there's the proximity to the Snake River Gorge for that white water experience (as opposed to Whitewater, which none of us wish to experience again) you've always dreamed of.

Mark Lipton
(preparing to reveal the mysteries of organic reaction mechanisms to a group of befuddled undergrad engineers)

 

[Ian Fitzsimmons]

Or big ass?