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A Visit from the Squire
- Thread starter Chris Coad
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originally posted by SFJoe:
My note to myself from 2/07 on the '97 Bourg is to hold off until at least 2010. Time to start in on the Poyeux now, IMO, and I'm about 40% of the way through my box of Clos.originally posted by VLM:
You didn't say it was 1997 BourgI only have a single bottle of this. Really not for the ages? I think the 1997 Clos is drinking really well now and not at any risk of immediate decline.
I would expect the Bourg to not quite be there yet, although they drink well for a long time.
I'm 67% through my stash of Clos. I only have 2 Poyeaux and 1 Bourg, so I've been wary.
Chris Coad
Chris Coad
originally posted by Jay Miller:
originally posted by VLM:
You didn't say it was 1997 BourgI only have a single bottle of this. Really not for the ages? I think the 1997 Clos is drinking really well now and not at any risk of immediate decline.
I would expect the Bourg to not quite be there yet, although they drink well for a long time.
To the best of my recollection it wasn't. Are you confusing the Huet and the Foucault?
That's my bet. I kind of understand. After all, this wine stuff is complicated, and they are both from the Loire Valley.
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originally posted by Kay Bixler:
We drank a '97 Bourg last year and it was terrific. The wine should last forever. Drink or hold.
Yes, but everyone knows it is drying like grapes on the vi... I mean, getting drier.
Chris Coad
Chris Coad
I have no idea what anybody is talking about.
Eden Mylunsch
Eden Mylunsch
originally posted by Chris Coad:
I have no idea what anybody is talking about.
Well, you started it!
Interesting call on the blind wine being a 1919 Inglenook Petite Sirah. It would be highly unusual for a bottle of this to exist, since wasn't that the year that the Volstead Act was put in place? Consumers pretty much drank everything they could find on the shelves while they still had the chance. The El Gavilan wine sounds interesting though. Was this from the same vineyard that Chalone now inhabits? Did the label have any info as to where it was from? The Gavilan range is home of the Pinnacles (an impressive mountain formation if there ever was one). Or maybe it's closer to Gilroy than Soledad? What about down where Calera is (lots of limestone there) or maybe even the old Enz Vineyard, home of California's finest Pinot St George vines. Even Charles Sullivan doesn't mention it in his books, so perhaps you were all hallucinating and you really were drinking a bottle of Charbono from Yuba City with an old label citing Sonoma slapped on it. Stranger things have happened in "stump the chump" blind wine tastings. Or maybe it was grown in King City and aged in Petaluma, thereby killing two birds with one stone. Or even more denizens of the aviary, since the wine's 1941 through 1947 provenance makes it possible to seel to both the pre-war and post-war wine collecting anoraks.
-Eden (as they say in the Moroccan Merchant Marine Corps, "when the going gets tough, the tough get weird, and the weird get going")(I better go)(BTW, check out Hillbilly Deluxe: http://www.scion.com/broadband/index.html?ch=1&sh=1)
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I agree.
Chris Coad
Chris Coad
It would be highly unusual for a bottle of this to exist, since wasn't that the year that the Volstead Act was put in place?
The Volstead Act wasn't enacted until October 28, 1919. My working theory was that the wines from that year's harvest then had to be hidden away somewhere until it was safe for Greg dal Piaz to buy them. As to the provenance of the actual wine, I recall him spinning a few tales, but can't bring the specifics to mind. Something about Pearl Harbor and the winemaker joining the Navy or something like that.
I thought "anorak" meant something "parka"?
lars makie
lars makie
It does. It's also to describe someone who is obsessively into something (like a hobby). Could be used in place of geek to some extent. Much like 'trainspotter' was used to describe someone who stood over the shoulder of a dj to see what tracks they were playing. Some point down the line, the term 'anorak' seemed to replace it (at least the way I had seen it used) as a music geek who obsessed over finding the rarest funk 45 amongst other things.originally posted by Chris Coad:
I thought "anorak" meant something "parka"?
originally posted by Chris Coad:
I thought "anorak" meant something "parka"?
Yes, but... Haven't you met Jamie Goode?
Mark Lipton
Chris Coad
Chris Coad
It does. It's also to describe someone who is obsessively into something (like a hobby). Could be used in place of geek to some extent. Much like 'trainspotter' was used to describe someone who stood over the shoulder of a dj to see what tracks they were playing. Some point down the line, the term 'anorak' seemed to replace it (at least the way I had seen it used) as a music geek who obsessed over finding the rarest funk 45 amongst other things.
Interesting, thanks. This is Scottish slang?
Yes, but... Haven't you met Jamie Goode?
I have met Jamie Goode. As I recall, he was very excited by California syrah at the time. Also, rather tipsy and jet-lagged. He was not wearing a parka, though.
Eden Mylunsch
Eden Mylunsch
originally posted by Chris Coad:
He was not wearing a parka, though.
Jamie's not usually known as a parkaphile, but he has said good things about Josh Raynolds in the past.
-Eden (but haven't we all?)
originally posted by Chris Coad:
Yes, but... Haven't you met Jamie Goode?
I have met Jamie Goode. As I recall, he was very excited by California syrah at the time. Also, rather tipsy and jet-lagged. He was not wearing a parka, though.
As I recall, we met Jamie at the Spanish dinner at Minetta where Plotnicki came, made everyone open up the wines so he could taste through them and left before ordering so he wouldn't have to eat there.
Lou Kessler
Lou Kessler
My understanding is that the food at Minetta was the only thing Plotnicki has been right about in many years. At least that's the story told by certain people "indigenous" to this board.originally posted by Brad Kane:
originally posted by Chris Coad:
Yes, but... Haven't you met Jamie Goode?
I have met Jamie Goode. As I recall, he was very excited by California syrah at the time. Also, rather tipsy and jet-lagged. He was not wearing a parka, though.
As I recall, we met Jamie at the Spanish dinner at Minetta where Plotnicki came, made everyone open up the wines so he could taste through them and left before ordering so he wouldn't have to eat there.
gregory dal piaz
gregory dal piaz
Jay Miller
Jay Miller
wow, thanks for doing the detective work Greg!
Chris Coad
Chris Coad
Being 1947, wines labeled as Cabernet needed only to contain 51% Cabernet with the remainder being primarily Zinfandel, Carignane, Petite Sirah and Mondeuse.
Ah HAH! I knew I tasted petite sirah!
gregory dal piaz
gregory dal piaz
Yes, with due credit given!