restaurants in dc for Dean candidates

Two thumbs up for Corduroy here too, although I haven't been to the new one. I sent a bunch of neuroscientists there during their shindig in DC, as well. They all enjoyed it, but I'm not sure if that's a positive or a negative.

I also might be inclined to go to Cantlers. But that might be too far a drive, and not exactly the vibe you are looking for.
 
Jonathan, you might consider the Tabard Inn, unless you think it might be too noisy - but if you ask them to seat you where they think it'll be more quiet you should be ok.

Not Hook - GTown too much of a hassle.

Palena of course is great and it is quiet.

Where is Cantlers??
 
originally posted by maureen:
Jonathan, you might consider the Tabard Inn, unless you think it might be too noisy..

They can do private rooms. I think they have several to choose from. Although I'm not sure how big Jonathan's crowd is.
 
originally posted by Steve Guattery:
originally posted by VLM:

As for the cost $55 seems reasonable. I got more than Dino money spent on me and I'm a nobody.

Obelisk by my recollection was more like $75/person last November. Add wine costs on top of that. Given what's happening with academic budgets these days...

You could be right. I seem to remember it being more expensive.

There is belt tightening at every level, that's for sure.
 
From today's San Francisco Chronicle http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2009/04/04/MNM516SOHR.DTL

UCSF draws the line at $75 bottles of wine
Jim Doyle, Chronicle Staff Writer
Saturday, April 4, 2009

UC San Francisco has issued new rules on how much money its medical faculty and staff may spend for wine at recruitment dinners and other University of California functions.

The maximum reimbursement: $75 per bottle of wine, or $15 per glass.

There is no explicit limit placed on how many bottles of wine may be purchased for such occasions, according to documents obtained by The Chronicle.

"The vast majority of expenses submitted here are entirely reasonable and appropriate, but every once in while things go out of whack," Doug Levy, a UCSF spokesman, said Friday. "Usually it's perfectly innocent, but every now and then people forget that it's university money."

He recounted one example of a rejected voucher for "a dinner for six - and half the bill is wine." He also gave an example of a faculty member who "graciously invited a foreign guest to choose the wine."

Levy said the new policy, which went into effect March 17, was prompted by just a few incidents of expensive wining and dining by staff, along with an overall need to tighten UCSF's spending during hard economic times. Levy said that as far he knows, no explicit dollar limit was placed on wine previously.

The new policy restricts the purchase of alcohol with university funds and covers employees in the Department of Medicine, which is UCSF's largest department and includes more than 2,000 staff and faculty members.

"Please distribute this information in your divisions so that all faculty and staff are aware of this new policy," Tracy Schaefer, a senior administrator, wrote in a March 16 e-mail to medical division chiefs and administrators at San Francisco General Hospital, one of UCSF's medical training centers.

Specific details of the new policy were spelled out in a separate e-mail by Michael Chen, a senior finance manager in the Department of Medicine.

In addition to the new restrictions, Chen pointed out UC's general reimbursement rules that apply to all 10 campuses for university-related lunches and dinners, noting that exceptions are granted in special circumstances.

"Although there is no limit as to the amount of wine that can be ordered, the non-exceptional lunch and dinner per-person reimbursement ceilings ($38 and $64, respectively) apply to the cost of food and wine," he wrote. "Please note that reimbursement for wine will be limited even if the total per-person cost of the meal does not exceed the non-exceptional reimbursement ceiling."

Additionally, Chen stressed another new policy at UCSF: "No reimbursement from university funds is allowed for mixed drinks or hard liquor."

Neither Schaefer nor Chen returned messages left by The Chronicle.

"What I have not been able to find out is how they decided on the $75," Levy said. "I guess it depends on the restaurant. I would hope that for $75 you're getting something great. ... In the past, the guidelines were ambiguous."

He said that deciding what constitutes a reasonable expense for faculty or administrative recruitment dinners is "a complicated one, because the nature of recruitment for an institution like UCSF inevitably requires some level of entertainment.

"Those meals have a real business purpose. But that doesn't mean they have to be treated like a banker or a corporate executive," he said. "Coming to UCSF means being willing to be a part of a public institution and be proud of it. We want people who are passionate about the patient care and research that we do."

UCSF, including its prestigious School of Medicine, expects to face rising operational costs and significant revenue cuts in the next year.

State funding for the medical school is projected to be cut by $7.2 million in the 2009-10 fiscal year, according to a recent memo by Dr. Sam Hawgood, the medical school's interim dean.

UC's systemwide policy is that expenses for alcoholic beverages may not be charged to state funds. The university system's 10 campuses receive only a small portion of their revenue from the state treasury; its additional revenue sources include alumni contributions and endowment funds, student tuition and fees, government contracts and grants, and such services as medical care.

"We're trying to remind people that there is a limit," Levy said, "and you have to have a good reason for going past it, and an expensive bottle of wine is not a good reason. ... We all need to be responsible for the university's money."

E-mail Jim Doyle at jdoyle@sfchronicle.com.


This article appeared on page A - 1 of the San Francisco Chronicle
 
originally posted by Claude Kolm:

The maximum reimbursement: $75 per bottle of wine, or $15 per glass.

[...]
"Although there is no limit as to the amount of wine that can be ordered, the non-exceptional lunch and dinner per-person reimbursement ceilings ($38 and $64, respectively) apply to the cost of food and wine," he wrote. "Please note that reimbursement for wine will be limited even if the total per-person cost of the meal does not exceed the non-exceptional reimbursement ceiling."

I'm surprised that it's taken UCSF this long to come to this arrangement. Our University has approached this same issue from the opposite direction: as a nominally dry campus, Purdue's accounting rules strictly forbade the use of any University or departmental funds for the purchase of alcoholic beverages, regardless of the situation. It was only heavy departmental pressure and the arrival of a new President in the late '90s that brought about the current system wherein departmental "slush funds" are used to pay for the wine while University/departmental funds pay for the food. Our own meal beudgets are a bit lower than UCSF's ($20 and $40 per person, IIRC) but for the wine budget we're just told to "keep it reasonable." Of course, with the markups in SF, $75 will likely get you nothing better than a Beringer Chardonnay at many places. Out here, we were able to fuel a visiting speaker's meal with a few bottles of Ridge Geyserville and not run afoul of the accounting trolls.

Mark Lipton
 
Back to DC restaurants, the lunch at Ardour (St. Regis) turned out to be a sort of eat near the bar thing with high end turkey clubs and croque monsieurs. But I heard the sit down restaurant was nice, and had a decent glass of a 2003 Darting Spaetlese by the glass with my sandwich.

Cole
 
originally posted by MLipton:
Purdue's accounting rules strictly forbade the use of any University or departmental funds for the purchase of alcoholic beverages, regardless of the situation.

You mean they wouldn't even reimburse you for boilermakers? I'd think that funds for those would be unlimited!

The UCSF restrictions aren't surprising, due to the state's budget crisis. They've gotta set an example somewhere, so why not start with the medical school? At least in SF there are a lot of options in terms of restaurants with good wine lists with reasonably priced wines. A18 and Delfina come to mind, and there have to be a lot more out there. You could probably even woo a prospective faculty member at Gary Danko or Chez Panisse and still drink pretty well for under $75/bottle. And who's to say that a good sommellier wouldn't be able to disguise a $150 bottle on the receipt as two $75 bottles? All just a part of keeping the customer satisfied....

-Eden (besides, UCSF should make it a requirement that everyone entertaining potential med faculty should order a bottle of Luca, Laura Catena's wine, since she's on the faculty of their emergency medicine department)
 
A16 and Delfina come to mind
Well, theoretically you'd actually want to have a conversation with your interviewee. Maybe at lunch, but dinner seems unlikely. Love both places, but conversation-welcoming they're not.
 
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