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originally posted by Florida Jim:
But I am trying to lose some weight and drinking the entire bottle with dinner is no longer on the program. So, a glass or two tonight and one tomorrow - that's the new deal for me - at least, for awhile.
BTW, lost 8 pounds in three weeks - not a lot but cutting back on the wine is all I'm doing.
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Makes sense. Not bad.
 
originally posted by Florida Jim:

But I am trying to lose some weight and drinking the entire bottle with dinner is no longer on the program. So, a glass or two tonight and one tomorrow - that's the new deal for me - at least, for awhile.
BTW, lost 8 pounds in three weeks - not a lot but cutting back on the wine is all I'm doing.
How about that?
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Good job, Jim. As is endlessly repeated, the best diet is one that you can stick with long-term, so I wish you the best of luck in making this adjustment to your consumption pattern. I may be forced into the same decision before too long, so I'll pay close attention to your progress (so don't mind the CCTV in your bathroom)

Mark Lipton
 
Like Lars, I have also had many Burgundies that were good, if not better (although that is more rare), on day 2. Also like Lars, I have likely drunk an order of magnitude fewer bottles of Burgundy than Tom Blach. But, there we are.

To Rahsaan's point, almost all of my bottles are drunk over two nights. I have noticed that I enjoy day 2 more often than I used to, so it might be a question of practice.

Most recently, a bottle of 2004 Bachelet Cote de Nuits Villages was as good on day 2 as on day 1. And wow, what a great bottle of wine.
 
originally posted by Arjun Mendiratta:
To Rahsaan's point, almost all of my bottles are drunk over two nights. I have noticed that I enjoy day 2 more often than I used to, so it might be a question of practice..
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For me it comes and goes. I often will drink high-acid white wines over 2 days, although recently I have been doing that less and less.

I used to enjoy tannic young red wines over two days but these days the flavors strike me as less precise on the second day.
 
originally posted by Joel Stewart:
must say something about the Nigl then that there are no 2nd day notes...
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Joel,
Actually, there was but it was identical on day two - hence, no need to reiterate.
Best, Jim
 
I have somewhat secretly marveled at how many of you guys are able to have any wine left over for a day two review. Between my wife and I, a bottle, in its entirety, is consumed over the course for the evening meal. We are only taking two glasses a piece here.

But as is usually the case, the obvious answer is the most elusive - we should be opening two bottles at a time and drink them over two days.
 
Actually, there was a time when 03 burgundies wouldn't shift after a week open. But that seems to have passed. There are overnight gains sometimes-to me they are always outweighed by a kind of swimming-pool looseness that creeps in, though.
 
originally posted by Tom Blach:
There are overnight gains sometimes-to me they are always outweighed by a kind of swimming-pool looseness that creeps in, though.
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Recently I agree about 95-98% of the time.
 
originally posted by JasonA:
Day TwoBut as is usually the case, the obvious answer is the most elusive - we should be opening two bottles at a time and drink them over two days.
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Depends on the wine.

Back when I was a big fan of this multi-day evaluation technique, I would revel in having 4-5 bottles open at all times, each at different stages of airing evolution.

Works a little better with sweet wines I must say.
 
originally posted by Florida Jim:
originally posted by Joel Stewart:
must say something about the Nigl then that there are no 2nd day notes...
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Joel,
Actually, there was but it was identical on day two - hence, no need to reiterate.
Best, Jim
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....now I know the depth of your dieting commitment, Jim.

impressive.
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by Tom Blach:
There are overnight gains sometimes-to me they are always outweighed by a kind of swimming-pool looseness that creeps in, though.
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Recently I agree about 95-98% of the time.
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Tom and Rahsaan,
First, my compliments to Tom for the "swimming-pool looseness" descriptor; I relate to that very well.
But I disagree with Rahsaan's numbers - as a matter of fact, I am surprised at how often on the second day a wine is actually more developed and showing more of what its all about - sans 'looseness.'
Perhaps, that's because many of the wines I try this way are pretty young. But even with some of the decade old bottles, its not anywhere near those percentages.
I kind of like this waiting a day to see what happens technique of consumption - I think I learn more about the wines that way and make more adjustments to their drinking schedule accordingly.
Best, Jim
 
originally posted by Florida Jim:
But I disagree with Rahsaan's numbers - as a matter of fact, I am surprised at how often on the second day a wine is actually more developed and showing more of what its all about - sans 'looseness.'
Perhaps, that's because many of the wines I try this way are pretty young.
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I guess it depends what wines you are drinking. Recently I have been drinking red Burgundy and Beaujolais and neither of those do I find particularly flattering on day two. Chenin yes, riesling yes, tannic rich red wines yes.
 
I agree with Jim that it depends on the youth of the wine. I've opened several young burg rouges and beaujolais that improved between the first and second days.
 
We must be joined at the hip.

originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
I've opened several young burg rouges and beaujolais that improved between the first and second days.
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originally posted by Rahsaan:
Recently I have been drinking red Burgundy and Beaujolais and neither of those do I find particularly flattering on day two.
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originally posted by JasonA:
Day TwoI have somewhat secretly marveled at how many of you guys are able to have any wine left over for a day two review. Between my wife and I, a bottle, in its entirety, is consumed over the course for the evening meal. We are only taking two glasses a piece here.
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It's actually pretty easy to do and not at all surprising when you have a wife who only takes a sip and there's no way I'm goign to finish a bottle on a nightly basis. I also don't have the funds to open a single bottle every night as many of you folks do, so out of necessity, the bottle is open and drunk from anywhere to 1-4 days. Sometimes, the changes can surprise, both on the upside as well as the downside.
 
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
I've opened several young burg rouges and beaujolais that improved between the first and second days.
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I would agree. In fact, young Beaujolais seems to be one of the few wines that, almost as a rule, I like better on the second day. I am not so persuaded about German Rieslings being open for long in the sense that I don't see much development in most cases even though they last open admirably well.

Does cutting back on wine really cause such a drastic lessening of energy put into the body that weight loss happens? I ask because for some annoying reasons I started putting on enormous amounts of weight recently but increasing the km I run and decreasing wine hasn't done anything to correct the situation on my part.
 
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