Chambers Bash

Well, I missed Mark. I saw Jeff out of the corner of my eye, but was talking to Raynolds and Dressner at the time and when I went to say hello to Jeff, he had gone. Nice to put the face next to the name Frank Deis and I saw Seth Hill there. I love going to Dressner's gigs. People give me things! The meat fairy gave me a whole bunch of amazingly delicious smoked brisket and Don gave me a shirt I've been asking about for nine years! Thanks Don!

I have pics from the vent that I'll put up sometime.
 
originally posted by Brad Kane:
So, I count Mark, Seth, Don, me and Kelly, who no one knows. Kelly, can you wear a funny hat?

Anymore?
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I'd like to be added to the waiting list.
 
originally posted by Don Rice:
I was impressed with the thoughtfulness of the lineups - Texier's lineup read/tasted like a play, each wine taking off logically from the last and moving the plotline forward.
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As much as I hate to admit it, Eric is really killing it these days.
 
originally posted by Frank Deis:
I was sorry to miss Mark. Given the vagaries of train and subway I didn't get down to Chambers Street until 5 PM. I was happy to meet Joe and Don, sorry to miss Mark. I suppose Kane might have taken my picture had I been a bivalve mollusc but I understand that we provincials occupy a lower order. (smiley face).

It was a fun tasting. The most unusual drinks were the odd "Chinata" at the last table. I was impressed, but I only came away with a weighty magnum of Pierre Peters from CSW.

F
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I keep looking at that magnum but don't have any time to open it.
 
Jay, I don't think anything will go wrong with that magnum over the next couple of years. And we have big enough parties -- and people like Peters enough -- that I think it will be easy enough to find an occasion.

I think I met you once or twice several years ago at BWE events. I can't think of the name of that hotel but Jim H. was there. We were in a private room at some midtown hotel, it was really nice.

Now that I am becoming aware that there are 17 Jay Millers around the wine boards I don't know any more whom I have met and whom not...

F

PS I was discussing the Chevillon sale with the twenty-something kid behind the counter at CSW. I was close to a decision when he informed me that "you can't just take this stuff home and drink it, you know." Actually I have the opposite problem, and I kind of resented this kid trying to teach me about cellar management. I suppose I can be touchy at times...
 
If it helps, the Pierre Peters (NV BdB) we bought in case-quantities for our wedding ('98) was absolutely point last year. I wouldn't worry about its ageability, unless you're doing the Peace Corps for about twenty years.
 
Peters NV does age quite well, though the version based on 2003 juice is not so great. I'm not sure which disgorgement that is, but 2007 dates could be 2003 dominated.
 
originally posted by Frank Deis:
Jay, I don't think anything will go wrong with that magnum over the next couple of years. And we have big enough parties -- and people like Peters enough -- that I think it will be easy enough to find an occasion.

I think I met you once or twice several years ago at BWE events. I can't think of the name of that hotel but Jim H. was there. We were in a private room at some midtown hotel, it was really nice.

Now that I am becoming aware that there are 17 Jay Millers around the wine boards I don't know any more whom I have met and whom not...
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Ah very possibly. Though I think the only BWE event I was at with Jim H. was the big annual one held in NYC a few years back where the '82 Branaire Ducru showed so well. There were also one or two at Triomphe (which fits your description more closely) but I don't remember Jim being at any of them.

I still read BWE and considered going down to DC for the annual bash but things were too busy.

Anyway, I think there are only 2 of us who post on boards and he's using Jay Stuart Miller on Squires. There's at least one more wine geeky Jay Miller as one store I shop at says they have 3 Jay Millers on their list.

Anyway, my concern with the Peters is both opportunity to open and place to store. But I might make a good New Years bottle. Certainly it's a beautiful Champagne from 750 so I'd guess it's even better from magnum.
 
The bottle I bought seems to have a 2007 date for degorgement so David's caveat may apply.

Yes, Triomphe, once or twice, I was there with Louise. I have pix somewhere as well, I think. Or maybe I don't. Keeping pictures electronically works well except for those hard disk crashes that keep happening. With the old system, your house would have to burn down to remove all your pictures. Now it is so much easier to lose everything...
 
originally posted by Frank Deis:
Keeping pictures electronically works well except for those hard disk crashes that keep happening. With the old system, your house would have to burn down to remove all your pictures. Now it is so much easier to lose everything...
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Frank,
This is a subject I've long pondered over, as I have a fair collection of digital photos that I have no desire to lose. The most obvious solution is to archive to CD/DVD, the problem being that the CD/DVD media have an anecdotal history of a significant failure rate in the medium-to-long term (more than 5 years). Since cosmic rays should not in theory affect the optical transmissivity of a CD, I'm not quite sure how the problems arise, but arise they do, it seems. The next option, and one I use for backing up my desktop system at work, is flash drives, but they too have no proven track record of longevity. This leaves us with a third option of an external hard drive, though as you've discovered, disk failures can and do happen (I have a vivid memory of a machine room incident in '78 wherein a power outage resulted in a half dozen disk head crashes of platter drives, the result of which was a room filled with particulate aluminum and a reincarnation of Yma Sumac hitting G above High C).

What this leaves us with as the Best Practice of 2009 is to employ a RAID drive as your backup medium. It still probably doesn't get you more than 10 years per drive, but it has as its benefit the promise of infinite renewal.

Mark Lipton
 
originally posted by Don Rice:

Vignerons were curious about my T-shirt, which Melissa made for the 2000 Huet-a-thon, and which I tried to explain with mixed success.
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I have been thinking about this -- I don't think the problem was incomprehension.

My guess is that it is kind of parallel to walking around Vatican City with a t-shirt that says

"Catholic Shmatholic"

The chuckles would be a little hard to come by, no matter how much you explained it.

F
 
If these vignerons held biodynamism in such exalted regard I could see that, but I would doubt that with these guys.

Biodynamism blindly followed is for schmucks, which is what the T-shirt really says. Without proper care by the vigneron in the vineyard and cave, the wines fall short, as we have seen in the efforts made by one of its best-known proponents.
 
originally posted by MLipton:
The Evancescence of Digital Media
originally posted by Frank Deis:
Keeping pictures electronically works well except for those hard disk crashes that keep happening. With the old system, your house would have to burn down to remove all your pictures. Now it is so much easier to lose everything...
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Frank,
This is a subject I've long pondered over, as I have a fair collection of digital photos that I have no desire to lose. The most obvious solution is to archive to CD/DVD, the problem being that the CD/DVD media have an anecdotal history of a significant failure rate in the medium-to-long term (more than 5 years). Since cosmic rays should not in theory affect the optical transmissivity of a CD, I'm not quite sure how the problems arise, but arise they do, it seems. The next option, and one I use for backing up my desktop system at work, is flash drives, but they too have no proven track record of longevity. This leaves us with a third option of an external hard drive, though as you've discovered, disk failures can and do happen (I have a vivid memory of a machine room incident in '78 wherein a power outage resulted in a half dozen disk head crashes of platter drives, the result of which was a room filled with particulate aluminum and a reincarnation of Yma Sumac hitting G above High C).

What this leaves us with as the Best Practice of 2009 is to employ a RAID drive as your backup medium. It still probably doesn't get you more than 10 years per drive, but it has as its benefit the promise of infinite renewal.

Mark Lipton
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If you're going the external on-site RAID route, go with a Drobo. It Just Works, though you do pay a premium.

Otherwise, I'd have to take issue with the claim of Best Practice of 2009- these days it's all about the cloud. Let someone else worry about data integrity for you (at enterprise-level reliability) and solve your off-site redundancy at the same time. Services like Carbonite, Mozy, Jungle Disk and the like make it pretty straightforward, with reasonable and incremental costs.

There's a list of them (and general overview, of course) at:

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en.wikipedia.org

There's some really interesting stuff happening these days along lines of Amazon's Web Services. It's changing the game.
 
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