Suggestions Requested -- 2 prestige wines?

Peter Creasey

Peter Creasey
I've been requested to suggest 2 or 3 high end wines that are available in the current marketplace for around, say, $250 - $300 each. These wines would be included on a dining room wine list.

Most preferred probably would be a Bordeaux and a Burgundy (preferably red) but other ideas can be considered as well.

I would appreciate any advice as soon as convenient.

. . . . . . Pete
 
originally posted by scottreiner: anything old from haut segottes, st emilion. the 81 and 82 are drinking beautifully now.

Scott, Sounds interesting!

I suspect, though, that something more recent and more widely available might be a better option.

. . . . . Pete
 
I recently had a client ask me for something similar--he needed to send a bottle to a board member who had been unusually helpful. I found him '82 Beychevelle for ca. $200, but another source came back to me with this list of current stock:

1970 Certan de May $175 bottle
1966 Domaine de Chevalier $225 bottle
1970 Ducru Beaucaillou $225 bottle
1975 La Conseillante $200 bottle
1971 L'Evangile $175 bottle
1995 Cos d'Estournel $250 bottle
1970 Beychevelle $175 bottle
1970 Giscours $200 bottle

That '66 DDC is great wine.
 
originally posted by SFJoe: I recently had a client ask me for something similar

Joe, Very interesting list!

Thus far, I have come up with:

Ch La Mission Haut Brion '00

Mommessin Clos du Tart '05

. . . . . . . Pete
 
I don't disagree, naturally!

The dining establishment is very limited as to the sources it can buy from; thus, older wines are rarely available as an option.

. . . . . Pete
 
originally posted by SFJoe: I would so rather drink Foillard '07

Joe, That gamay is getting a lot of favorable reviews like yours. I don't believe I have tried it. I guess I should look for it.

. . . . Pete
 
If you need to drink something in current release and expensive, you might be able to find '91 Bosconia, just out. Or something from '06 or '07 in the Rhone.
 
originally posted by Peter Creasey:
originally posted by SFJoe: Or something from '06 or '07 in the Rhone.

Joe, I have spotted the Guigal La La's '04 for around $300+. Shaky vintage but interesting wines.

. . . . . Pete

Nope, it's a pretty decent vintage and uninteresting wines.

Your request is confusing. Are you asking for wines available currently through a wholesale source in your home state?
 
I think the '00 La Miss should work, although I would much rather have what's on Joe's list.

Another idea is to get large format bottles of a single house, if prestige is the key concern. It's not as if 600 dollar bottles of wine are going to be ordered on a regular basis, whereas 600 dollar magnums might move much faster. And even if they don't, it's a more interesting addition to a list. I've also seen restaurant lists go the other way and offer splits of prestige dessert wines (one even gave a discount if anybody was palate-challenged enough to order Yquem, Noble One and some random 6 putts Tokaji, the latter 2 absurdly marked up for a comparative tasting).
 
originally posted by VLM: Are you asking for wines available currently through a wholesale source in your home state?

V, I needed some quick ideas to suggest to the dining establishment (which cannot buy directly from a distributor).

The time has elapsed for suggestions so dialogue now is just residual thoughts.

. . . . . Pete
 
originally posted by Yixin: Another idea is to get large format bottles of a single house ... I've also seen restaurant lists go the other way and offer splits of prestige dessert wines

Y, Our experience is that non-750s just don't sell in this dining establishment... the possible exception being with splits of dessert wines.

. . . . . . Pete
 
originally posted by Peter Creasey:
originally posted by VLM: Are you asking for wines available currently through a wholesale source in your home state?

V, I needed some quick ideas to suggest to the dining establishment (which cannot buy directly from a distributor).

The time has elapsed for suggestions so dialogue now is just residual thoughts.

. . . . . Pete

OK, I misunderstood what was going on.

Proceed.
 
originally posted by Florida Jim:
2007 Raveneau.
Best, Jim

That's a good suggestion. My thoughts are to look toward wines that either don't shut down or shut down after a few years. Grand Cru Burgundy would be an option (in both colors) and things like Beaucastel Hommage a Jacques Perrin and Roussanne VV, though they might not be "prestigious" enough for some folks.

Mark Lipton
 
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