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Putnam, please, please, please, please, please. Everything else was good. The Cure! Echo & the Bunnymen! XTC! Depeche Mode! etc. Video Killed the Radio Star!
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I've been in love with all of those bands at various points. The only artifact that remains great (to me) is English Settlement.

I suppose you don't have much use for Another Green World, Mr. Heartbreak or Twang Bar King either.
 
originally posted by Todd Abrams:
As a fifteen-year-old I knew New Order before Joy Division. Thomas Manor at the corner of 8 Mile and Gratiot, a big swoop of hair in my eyes, dancing with the rich girls that rode up from Grosse Pointe for a little danger on a Sunday night.
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Do you appear in a Jeffrey Eugenides novel, Todd?

Mark Lipton
 
Oh, and there's more great music on any one side of the Clash's "London Calling" than the entire Joy Division catalog.

How many people would have even cared if Curtis hadn't committed suicide?
 
originally posted by Marshall Manning:
How many people would have even cared if Curtis hadn't committed suicide?
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If you're suggesting that the appeal of Joy Division is the tragedy of their lead singer you only need to reference Mark Lipton's insightful post regarding the musical influence still showing up nearly three decades later.
 
Pixies "Monkey Gone to Heaven"

Or Hell.

The Jury is still out.

I will thoroughly miss the DC Jeebus for further debate.
 
originally posted by Todd Abrams:
If you're suggesting that the appeal of Joy Division is the tragedy of their lead singer you only need to reference Mark Lipton's insightful post regarding the musical influence still showing up nearly three decades later.
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I'm not going to pretend to know Mark's (or Lars') musical history, but not that many people listened to Joy Division when Curtis was alive. Like Jim Morrison, I think much of the attention was brought on after his death. While he may have been an "inspiration" for depressed goth bands since (is there really such a thing as inspiring depression?), I can't help but believe that a lot of the people who listened to Joy Division (whether musicians or not) were introduced to them after the bad was done.

Marshall, who had "Never Mind the Bollocks" on 8-track.
 
I have just gotten into Joy Division in the past year.

I think they fucking rock(ed).

I'm female.

I'm 29.

Coming to the music late as I have, I don't romanticize the content for the context; if anything, it's the other way around.
 
Posited: the loss of Bon Scott (Feb 1980) is far more significant to the future of rock than the loss of Ian Curtis (May 1980).

Discuss.
 
Brian Johnson cannot stand in his shoes (albeit, he does a better job than anyone else I could think of). Curtis expressed an aesthetic brilliantly; Bon Scott embodied one, was an icon.
 
Is branding everything? If Paul and Ringo had gotten together this summer and performed as The Beatles, it would've sucked as much as the idiots who are arguing in court over the 'Doors' name. Once Lennon or Harrison or Morrison are dead and gone, game over, find another gig. I can sort of live with the Zeppelin reunion because the intriguing force there was always Plant/Page, but it still sticks in my craw. Daltrey and Townshend can find any bassist and drummer they want to play behind them and still call it The Who, but AC/DC without Bon Scott is Angus Young + the AC/DC tribute band.

Hey, where's Tony Fletcher, big time rock 'n roll writer, anyway?
 
originally posted by Marshall Manning:

I'm not going to pretend to know Mark's (or Lars') musical history, but not that many people listened to Joy Division when Curtis was alive. Like Jim Morrison, I think much of the attention was brought on after his death. While he may have been an "inspiration" for depressed goth bands since (is there really such a thing as inspiring depression?), I can't help but believe that a lot of the people who listened to Joy Division (whether musicians or not) were introduced to them after the bad was done.
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I think that you two are talking at cross-purposes. There's no question that the band's popularity took off after Curtis's death: album sales tell that story. Todd was, I think, making the equally true point that Curtis's death wasn't the appeal for most people. In my case, I freely cop to not getting a Joy Division album until after reading the ecstatic reviews in Rolling Stone, at a time when it still had a shred of credibility as a music magazine. Many of my British friends were already quite familiar with them, though, as I found out in the ensuing years. The comparison to Jim Morrison isn't very apt, as The Doors were huge long before his death. In Curtis's case, he was just a very troubled person who happened to make some good music. One could get hyperbolic and compare him to Van Gogh, but that seems excessive to me.

Marshall, who had "Never Mind the Bollocks" on 8-track.
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Mark Lipton, who saw them perform their last show at Winterland in '78
 
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