Joe Dressner
Joe Dressner
Vindication in what sense?
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originally posted by Joe Dressner:
Vindication in what sense?
This sense: http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_1861734181/vindication.html
originally posted by Don Rice:
Those guys on the TDF are total studs.
Apparently, you've never tried to have sex with a competitive biker - not recommended in my experience.
originally posted by Don Rice:
Today I biked from CSW to my apt on 217th street... barely.
With a load of Loire goodies on my back.
Those guys on the TDF are total studs.
I need some steroids for "backside" recovery alone. Ouch!
Hey, at least you can bike there;Even driving there takes months off me!
Sharon Bowman
Sharon Bowman
originally posted by maureen:
originally posted by Don Rice:
Those guys on the TDF are total studs.
Apparently, you've never tried to have sex with a competitive biker - not recommended in my experience.
I'm sorry, but I have to bite. Details?
originally posted by VS:
The consensus in Spain is that Johan Bruyneel, the Astana team manager, favors Armstrong so blatantly over Contador that this guy has no chance. But you know those Spaniards, always griping. Me, I still think Contador will win.
It would be hard for him not to, he knows who signs his checks.
If they don't go after each other on Friday, it'll be interesting to see what happens on the Alps d'Huez. I think most folks see Contador as the clear favorite so it'll be interesting if he has the willpower and drive to knock Lance off the perch. Frankly, I think if he did that Friday, Lance would fall in line, but he won't unless Contador takes it from him. Lance won't give anyone anything.
Do the Spanish all think Lance is a doper like the French do?
BTW, was Contador ever fully cleared?
For the record, I don't care all that much. I would have let Floyd keep it.
originally posted by Don Rice:
Today I biked from CSW to my apt on 217th street... barely.
With a load of Loire goodies on my back.
Those guys on the TDF are total studs.
I need some steroids for "backside" recovery alone. Ouch!
I rode yesterday with my friend who rides for BMW/Bianchi. It was her "rest" day and she still made me hurt. Bad.
originally posted by VS:
The consensus in Spain is that Johan Bruyneel, the Astana team manager, favors Armstrong so blatantly over Contador that this guy has no chance. But you know those Spaniards, always griping. Me, I still think Contador will win.
I also think Contador will win. And as vlm says, I think Armstrong will fall in line with that -- once Contador kicks his ass on a climb, which may happen soon.
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
originally posted by maureen:
originally posted by Don Rice:
Those guys on the TDF are total studs.
Apparently, you've never tried to have sex with a competitive biker - not recommended in my experience.
I'm sorry, but I have to bite. Details?
um, well, sort of like those hills - hard to get up, then hard to get down
Prior to the mid 90s he sport was almost impossible follow in the US. What we have now is incredible.
I understand those that find it boring to watch. Like anything it helps to have an interest and then to understand everything about what you're seeing. Of course the Tour is unique in that it is played out against the backdrop of beauty and diversity of France. That really helps. The best sporting moments are the high mountains, particularly the mountaintop finishes. I've witnessed some great sport on the final climbs. I ride so I can relate directly to the suffering.
I've followed Lance since '92. In '96 he seemed finished due to the cancer. The comeback in '99 while exploited endlessly as a "Miracle", really was miraculous. The rest has been surreal. As to synthetic
enhancement, I have been of the opinion that Lance trained far more scientifically and with far more discipline than the Europeans. Plus he took full advantage of his elite status to meet every need.
I'm very interested to see who's gonna pace or be paced up the final climbs and who will be able to ride away. Lance didn't quite have it at the Giro but may have it now. Alberto is going to have demonstrate true superiority before Lance will defer.
I understand those that find it boring to watch. Like anything it helps to have an interest and then to understand everything about what you're seeing. Of course the Tour is unique in that it is played out against the backdrop of beauty and diversity of France. That really helps. The best sporting moments are the high mountains, particularly the mountaintop finishes. I've witnessed some great sport on the final climbs. I ride so I can relate directly to the suffering.
I've followed Lance since '92. In '96 he seemed finished due to the cancer. The comeback in '99 while exploited endlessly as a "Miracle", really was miraculous. The rest has been surreal. As to synthetic
enhancement, I have been of the opinion that Lance trained far more scientifically and with far more discipline than the Europeans. Plus he took full advantage of his elite status to meet every need.
I'm very interested to see who's gonna pace or be paced up the final climbs and who will be able to ride away. Lance didn't quite have it at the Giro but may have it now. Alberto is going to have demonstrate true superiority before Lance will defer.
originally posted by maureen: um, well, sort of like those hills - hard to get up, then hard to get down
Is that somehow an issue related to competitive bikers in general?
Sharon Bowman
Sharon Bowman
originally posted by maureen:
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
originally posted by maureen:
Apparently, you've never tried to have sex with a competitive biker - not recommended in my experience.
I'm sorry, but I have to bite. Details?
um, well, sort of like those hills - hard to get up, then hard to get down
I thought downhill was quick 'n' easy?
But interesting, uh, data point.
Yes. It turns out that endlessly banging a bike seat into the nerves and plumbing in your tender regions is not the best thing for their function.originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by maureen: um, well, sort of like those hills - hard to get up, then hard to get down
Is that somehow an issue related to competitive bikers in general?
Can give false positive PSA, too.
originally posted by SFJoe: It turns out that endlessly banging a bike seat into the nerves and plumbing in your tender regions is not the best thing for their function..
You don't say..
originally posted by Ned Hoey:
As to synthetic enhancement, I have been of the opinion that Lance trained far more scientifically and with far more discipline than the Europeans. Plus he took full advantage of his elite status to meet every need.
The interesting thing is that the great champion who essentially paved the way for Lance, Indurain, to my knowledge, has never been subjected to the scrutiny that Lance has been.
I think part of the reason that Lance is so hated is because of the Anglo-Saxon way he approached the race. He was so methodical and had how and where he was going to win planned out (people forget that Indurain started this first, he basically won by destroying everyone else in the ITT). He has 6 fewer stage wins than Hinault and 12 fewer than Merckx.
When I think back on his great victory when he broke Ullrich in the mountains, I mean took his spirit, it just gives me goosebumps.
I'm no Lance apologist, and he is a redneck shithead from Texas, but the man is a force of nature. I singularity of anger.
I'm very interested to see who's gonna pace or be paced up the final climbs and who will be able to ride away. Lance didn't quite have it at the Giro but may have it now. Alberto is going to have demonstrate true superiority before Lance will defer.
Lance could completely change his legacy and the way that Europeans view him by riding for Contador. You know he takes his public image and legacy very seriously, so it'll be interesting to see.
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
I thought downhill was quick 'n' easy?
on the course, yes - in bed, not so much
Contador drops the hammer!!!
Did anyone see it? Sounds like he put it to Lance. Wonder if he looked back at him like Lance did to Jan.
Did anyone see it? Sounds like he put it to Lance. Wonder if he looked back at him like Lance did to Jan.
originally posted by VLM:
Did anyone see it? Sounds like he put it to Lance. Wonder if he looked back at him like Lance did to Jan.
Yeah, I saw it. Contador is well known for being the best at sudden accelerations. This wasn't an attack at Lance. This was against Evans and the other contenders in the group. The team thing for Lance to do
was mark Evans or anyone attempting to chase Contador which he did. This was the final few kilometers,
Lance did not seem incapable of following but it would have been improper if he had. There's a lot more to go. Lance may indeed be riding to be second, it's hard to say, but I expect he will keep himself to at any moment be in a position to take over if AC falters.