TN: Miscellaneous June notes

Foucault Clos Rougeard Saumur-Champigny Les Poyeux 1995
Thanks to Ned again. Two bottles: one forward and sweetly perfumed, with an almost syrupy creaminess to the fruit that reminded me more of the 1996 than any other bottle of the 1996, plus there was zero bitterness. The other deeper ruby-black coloured and still fractionally closed, albeit opening up as well, with a touch of that sourness/bitterness most bottles of the 1995 Le Bourg exhibit as well, but also a very nice wine. Either way, we would recommend drinking both 1995s up. Rating: 88-?

Foucault Clos Rougeard Saumur-Champigny Le Bourg 1996
Had not really planned to open several bottles within such short order, but after one from the second batch I had bought directly from the importer maybe half a year after the first was not just cork-tainted, but also looked a bit murky/tarnished, I wanted to make sure. Good gracious was this good! And I got to drink more than half of it for once! :-) Nicely lively-glossy ruby-black, ruby-red at the rim. Finesseful, racy, firm, lively, long. Great grip. Terrific graphite, smoke, stony minerality, precise berry and cherry fruit, herbs, lovely Cabernet Franc leafiness. Extremely well-integrated oak, especially given this was aged in barrique for 24 months. Youthful, not too closed anymore at all, but needs ample time in the decanter (three hours plus at present), preferably a few more years in bottle. Beautiful curranty sweetness and red fruit with airing. What depth of terroir expression! Great complexity, subtlety and length. Body, alcohol, concentration and intensity, and all of it without excess weight. Shared this bottle with a great friend who thought it tight at first, truly great wine but not too approachable, and who insisted this would profit from at least another decade in the cellar. Extended airing brought forth an alluring superripe peachiness, just a touch, pointing perhaps to the inclusion of some surmaturit grapes the wines core remains youthfully tight, even slightly hard. Extremely promising, but not easy to keep ones paws off! Rating: 97+?

Knoll Riesling Smaragd Ried Schtt 2005
Slightly underestimated this wine at release. Bright yellow-golden green. Fruity with lime and finesse notes of dried flowers, but even more minerally, with pretty, peppery Wachau spice. Nice body, sound alcohol and acidity, good length. Perfect with appetizers, attractive on its own. Very youthful, not closed nor at all going downhill as apparently some customers claim (as the Sommelier told us). Rating: 92

Chteau La Mission Haut Brion Pessac-Lognan 1988
Another of those perfectly stored half bottles from my collection, and perhaps the best showing of this wine yet. Fresh, glossy ruby-red with black reflections. Aristocratic scorched brick clay, tobacco, tree bark and forest floor earth and undergrowth. Half-dried blackcurrant and black cherry. Certainly a bit drier/less fruity than the 1989. Almost shares the 1996 Foucault Le Bourgs graphite note (albeit not that wines fruit and sweetness). Black tea like tannin. Very long and subtle. An exponent of the now seemingly long-gone era of mouth-cleansing Bordeaux, almost gingery freshness how much I will miss wines like these one day... Rating: ~95(-?)

Mommessin Clos de Tart 1996
Full ruby-red, black hue. Touch of beef blood/iron to firm, lightly leafy as well as lightly marzipan oak-tinged fruit. Suggestions of wet earth and dried red beet. A faint roastedness to the beef note that reminded Albino of Chave Hermitage. Pretty tannin, well-integrated acidity. A sizeable, quite powerful, complex and well-balanced wine, but I secretly kept wondering if I find it noble/captivating enough in terms of terroir expression for Grand Cru (if, to quote one of Christians favourite if no less vague terms, it does not lack a little in grandesse). Still youthful, seemingly just entering its plateau of maturity, hard to tell, but there may be yet more to this in a few years from now. Rating: 91+/92(+?)

Chteau Sociando-Mallet Haut-Mdoc 1990
A half bottle ordered from a restaurant wine list. Deep ruby-red-black. Black truffle, blackcurrant and black cherry. Sappy, lightly meaty sweetness. Tiny sweat and pink marzipan finesse notes with airing. Medium-plus length at first, growing longer with airing. Integrated, softened tannin and oak. No more powerful, but sweeter and fruitier than the 1986, with greater purity perhaps. Rating: 93-

Trimbach Riesling Vendanges Tardives Cuve Frdric mile 1990
Minerally, a bit closed fruit at first, perhaps still too young to open (this is an unusual CFE insofar as it is both ageworthy and was so much fun to drink at release). Retains terrific cut and focus, but at this stage, does not come across as quite as voluminous as the 1989, which I currently prefer (that is, again, even though that wine has through a similar phase, so I would not bet against either, ever). Depth, intensity and length are all there. Probably just needs more time now. Rating: 93+/94

Trimbach Riesling Vendanges Tardives Hors Choix Clos Ste-Hune 1989
Full, deep golden colour. Thick, botrytised, viscous, oil and mouth-filling/-coating like a Beerenauslese, if significantly fuller-bodied. Golden sultanas, pretty spring flowers and herbs, lightly aged dandelion, superripe pineapple and lightly honeyed-roasted Tarte Tatin apple. Fascinating finesse thanks to argillo-calcerous minerality (the hallowed Clos Ste-Hune terroir). Gained in freshness and liveliness with airing this is no longer youthfully primary, nor has it entered its plateau of maturity. Beautiful acidity, and no little alcohol both perfectly integrated. Hugely long. Modern-day legend that really needs a little more time in bottle. Rating: 98+/99(+?)

Van Volxem Riesling Alte Reben Wiltinger Gottesfuss 2003
What a beauty! A wine of great freshness, subtlety and harmony, perhaps surprisingly so for a 2003, that is, unless one knows this wine and has observed it since release. Lovely apple, gooseberry and more exotic fruit flavours. Pretty minerality, all finesse, not petrolly at all. Nicely medium-bodied. Lightly viscous. Very long and finesseful finish. Not sure this is improving, seems as if it has always been so good; also, there is no track record for this harmoniously dry (= only subjectively dry) low alcohol style. Rating: 93(+/-?)

Greetings from Switzerland, David.
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Thanks David. I will try to forget that I've got multiples of those mid-90s Clos Rougeards in the cellar, but your notes regularly tempt. I want to see what another five to ten years will bring.
 
I always thought the 90 Trimbach FE VT was a little dryer than most of the other VT's I have had from them (or anyone). And for that reason, as well as for the wine itself, I loved it.
Best, Jim
 
originally posted by David from Switzerland: Mommessin Clos de Tart 1996 Still youthful, seemingly just entering its plateau of maturity, hard to tell, but there may be yet more to this in a few years from now. Rating: 91+/92(+?)

David, The '96s seem to just keep on keeping on. And the Clos de Tart is no exception (and rarely fails to impress).

. . . . . . Pete
 
The '88 La Miss is great - it was one of the bottles that made me think twice about never buying Bordeaux. Probably has a couple of decades more to go, although its profile makes me suspect a very, very long plateau from now onwards rather than any significant improvement, and possibly trading off some freshness for a hint more complexity.

'03 van Volxems - I thought there was a bit too much alcohol and weight, although the Gottesfuss carried it the best of all the bottlings.
 
'88 Mission was strangely young when I last tried it - blind, I thought it was a 2001. I love palate-cleansing Bordeaux, but sadly also find that it is at least as endangered a species as the Kakapo in NZ.
 
originally posted by Florida Jim:
I always thought the 90 Trimbach FE VT was a little dryer than most of the other VT's I have had from them (or anyone). And for that reason, as well as for the wine itself, I loved it.
Best, Jim

I'd agree that the 90 is dryer than the 83 or 89 CFE VT. I also find the 1990 to be less about botrytis, and more about Riesling than the 83 and 89. Statistically, that may not be correct, I'm not sure - but it's been my perception in the bottles I have tasted. I actually don't prefer the 83, I find that the botrytis gives it a bitter edge that's a little too much for me. Or maybe since my last experiences were from 375s, they had gone 'round the bend?

As far as the more recent bottlings go, if you like the 1990, I might look at the 2000. I was surprised at the 1998 - it seemed riper than I thought it would be. I did not try the 2001 young so I can't comment there, but I love that each bottling is different, and evolves differently with time. I can't think of much else I'd rather be doing than comparing these wines in 10 years, "in situ".

I've never warmed up to the 1989 Hors Choix. Fascinating? No Doubt! Pleasurable? Not so much for me. I find it interesting, much in the same way as a Radikon. But I'd rather drink a regular CSH, or the 83 CSH VT, or a CFE VT, similar to my preference to drink some other orange wines over Radikon.

And as far as 2003s from Germany, I am still yet to have one that I didn't find marked by excessive alcohol. Yuck.
 
originally posted by mlawton:
And as far as 2003s from Germany, I am still yet to have one that I didn't find marked by excessive alcohol. Yuck.

You're crazy.

I haven't had a bunch recently (although I do have a few on deck) but I've definitely been enjoying the Willi Schaefer 03 wines recently (including tonight) fresh and lovely.

And what about the 03 Vollenweider GK you sold me! :)
 
Might be crazy, might just be sensitive to alcohol. I don't like anything fortified, and I find many unfortified wines with evident (to me) alcohol to be unpalatable. I had several bottles of the 03 Schaefer Auction Spatlese. I dumped one down the sink after not being able to choke down a glass, and I sold the others.

I take no responsibility for the 03 Vollenweider GK. I somehow ended up with a bunch of them, and I've opened a few but haven't really liked them. Daniel swears that it will be fine with time. I trust him. Plus, I can't sell them all.
 
originally posted by mlawton:

I actually don't prefer the 83, I find that the botrytis gives it a bitter edge that's a little too much for me.

The 1989 or 1983? According to my (first-hand) information, there were more passerill (dried/shrivelled) berries than there was botrytis (reportedly none at all in either CSH, by the way, not even in the VT).

originally posted by mlawton:

I was surprised at the 1998 - it seemed riper than I thought it would be.

Riper in the sense of more evolved? The 1998s are among the more botrytised and quick to evolve CFEs.

originally posted by mlawton:

And as far as 2003s from Germany, I am still yet to have one that I didn't find marked by excessive alcohol. Yuck.

I hate making statements like this, but you must have tasted the wrong wines. There are alcoholic 2003s, but not exclusively.

Greetings from Switzerland, David.
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originally posted by mlawton:
Might be crazy, might just be sensitive to alcohol. I don't like anything fortified, and I find many unfortified wines with evident (to me) alcohol to be unpalatable.

I'm often accused (by friends) of being overly sensitive to alcohol myself, but I cannot subscribe to what you say about fortified wine. To me, there appear to be two kinds of sensitivity to alcohol, absolute and relative. When it comes to e.g. 2003 German Riesling, chances are it's a balance problem (as in wine that lacks concentration and/or dry extract to buffer alcohol and/or acidity - although the latter would rather be a problem in e.g. many 2008s), don't you think? There is an additional problem, I believe, which is the virtual absence of malic acid in some 2003s - that appears to make some wines taste "warmer" with alcohol than they are.

Greetings from Switzerland, David.
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originally posted by mlawton: I had several bottles of the 03 Schaefer Auction Spatlese. I dumped one down the sink after not being able to choke down a glass, and I sold the others.

The Auction is usually more intense so I can see how it might be too much in 2003. But, as I spent more time with tonight's 03 GD Spatlese #11 it shows softer and softer, so more evidence for your view. Although I don't have nearly enough recent experience with the vintage to make any broad claims.

I take no responsibility for the 03 Vollenweider GK. I somehow ended up with a bunch of them, and I've opened a few but haven't really liked them. Daniel swears that it will be fine with time. I trust him. Plus, I can't sell them all.

I guess I'll wait on that one then.
 
I wish I could comment on 2008s, but I have tasted a grand total of "0", so I'm useless there.

On the 1998 VT, maybe "riper" was a poorly selected word. Substitute "sweeter/simpler".

And for 83 vs 83 VT, my most recent recollection (maybe a year ago) was an 83 from 375 and an 89 from 750. I did not like the 83 at all, found it bitter. So I sold off the remainder that I had. The 89 didn't seem bitter, just not as interesting as I find the 1990.
 
originally posted by mlawton:

And for 83 vs 83 VT, my most recent recollection (maybe a year ago) was an 83 from 375 and an 89 from 750. I did not like the 83 at all, found it bitter. So I sold off the remainder that I had. The 89 didn't seem bitter, just not as interesting as I find the 1990.

To avoid confusion (primarily mine), we're talking about the VT version of CFE in each case / all three vintages, not the standard CFE, correct? My experience with all three of these wines has been uniformly positive (with the exception of a cork-tainted bottle or two). I lack experience with half bottles, though I have heard of complaints.

Greetings from Switzerland, David.
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Yes, I should have been more specific, since I did mention CSH VT and some other wines. The paragraph that you quote refers only to CFE VT.
 
Anyone have experience with recent 2003 from Grunhaus?

I see the domaine still has a bunch available (all up and down the various pradikat) which seems to suggest that it was not the fastest selling vintage. But, wondering if it could still be worth ordering some?
 
getting back to cfe vt (ahem, rahsaan - stay on topic!) - a couple of years ago when john trombley was in town I organized a little dinner where instead of the usual free-for-all with wines, I had each person commit to specific bottles that worked in groupings and with courses - like a dinner party, not an offline. Someone had offered to bring the 1989 CFE VT so I decided I'd pair it up with a 90 from my cellar. Initially, most (not me) people at the table preferred the '89 - but after awhile everyone preferred the 90. It is just slightly more structured and focused - in fact, I vowed not to pair them again as the 89 is a terrific wine and doesn't deserve to be shown up by a younger version of itself.
 
originally posted by maureen:
getting back to cfe vt (ahem, rahsaan - stay on topic!) - a couple of years ago when john trombley was in town I organized a little dinner where instead of the usual free-for-all with wines, I had each person commit to specific bottles that worked in groupings and with courses - like a dinner party, not an offline. Someone had offered to bring the 1989 CFE VT so I decided I'd pair it up with a 90 from my cellar. Initially, most (not me) people at the table preferred the '89 - but after awhile everyone preferred the 90. It is just slightly more structured and focused - in fact, I vowed not to pair them again as the 89 is a terrific wine and doesn't deserve to be shown up by a younger version of itself.

Hi Maureen!

There's lots of such pairings I never do anymore for precisely this reason. Personally, between the 1989 and 1990 CFE VTs, I appear to like the one I have in my glass, and over the years have preferred one or the other mainly because it was more open/accessible for some reason. What I do remember is that the 1990 was the better to drink at release (by far), but I seem to have less of a preference either way since then. The one-year difference is bound to become negligible as the two wines age, I guess, it's probably going to be a matter of vintage characteristics (in particular overall balance, botrytis, acidity) as to how they're going to evolve over the long term.

Greetings from Switzerland, David.
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