(TN) Vacation Wines: Grand Siecle, 99 Girardin Champans, 05 Briords, 99 L d'Or, 00 Fombrauge, 06 Rollin, 98 Christoffel

Ian Fitzsimmons

Ian Fitzsimmons
1999 Girardin Volnay 1er Champans: hearty red, no bricking. Some sour cherries, initially pleasing sappiness, but with air settled down to a decent though unexciting red Burgundy with substance and rubby tannins, but not a lot of expression. Too soon? Unmemorable with NY strip steak.

1999 Luneau-Papin Muscadet L dOr: muted at first and unimpressive but improving over the first evening to a somewhat Puligny-like combination of light richness, together with finesse and complexity, but with an abbreviated finish. Second evening still pleasant but faaaaading.

The 99 has been floating around the Virginia market for the past year or so at a senior price, but I've wanted to try a good muscadet with some age on it. This was interesting and good, but not notably better than a young L d'Or. I've read one commenter write of the 'patina' acquired by older muscadet, and would agree that this is an apt descriptor.

What kind of a year was 99 in the lower Loire?

NV Laurent-Perrier Grand Siecle (from magnum): Fine structure and beads, tropical fruits on nose and palate, woven together with modest bits of brioche. A nice drink with some fine attributes, but without the depth and complexity Id hoped for in a wine of this cachet, especially from a bottling purportedly made largely from 96 wine. Superb, however, with Georgia wild shrimp sauted with garlic in butter and oil, served on rye sourdough bread. Food wine?

Tasted about the same on day 2.

2005 Pepiere Muscadet Briords V.V. (from magnum): Pleasant but - weirdly - rather soft and characterless no zingy acid, no savory-mineral dusting, not much there to draw attention. Im a Pepiere devotee but am finding the 05 Briords underwhelming after trying two 750s and a now a mag. This wine gets raves everywhere else, so Im confused. Perhaps it is in a closed phase now (I opened my first bottle about a year ago)?

1998 J.J. Christoffel Urziger Wuerzgarten Auslese *: a venerable treat, good by itself as an aperitif, good with salty cheese apres. Light gold color, pleasantly bready, UW-swampy aroma. AL-sweet aged to mellowness. Little spine now, and I will be drinking my remaining bottles in the coming year.

2000 St. Emillion Chateau Fombrauge: I gave up buying Bx about five years ago, but this bottle was charming: fresh and zesty, hallmark Bx cedar, red fruit flavors with modest St. Emillion plushness. Ive been trying these since about 05 and would say they are at or near peak now. Ideal with simple roast rack of lamb and pommes frites. Very respectable at about $18.

2006 Rollin Haut Cotes de Beaune: Pleasant light-weight Bourgogne, in essence; rather thin, decent acid structure, modest fruit. A bit more weight on day 2 (after rough treatment overnight), so might should age a year or two. At $18 net, not an outstanding bargain. Perfect burger wine. [But see my additional note below!]
 
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
1999 Girardin Volnay 1er Champans: hearty red, no bricking. Some sour cherries, initially pleasing sappiness, but with air settled down to a decent though unexciting red Burgundy with substance and rubby tannins, but not a lot of expression. Too soon? Unmemorable with NY strip steak.

Unmemorable ngociant.

What kind of a year was 99 in the lower Loire?

Like, Pouilly?
 
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:

Unmemorable ngociant.

So I gather; some times you have to pay for knowledge.

Like, Pouilly?

I reckoned 'down' applied to 'river' means towards its meeting point with the ocean. Thus lower Loire would be towards Nantes, which is muscadet country. Did I get this wrong?
 
Addendum: we've opened the Rollin two more times since I wrote the note above, and it's been much better both times: good acid/tannic bite, but with charming, aromatic fruit to balance and decent heft for a hcdb. Now I'd call it a solid value at $18+. Go Rollin!
 
Like, Pouilly?

I reckoned 'down' applied to 'river' means towards its meeting point with the ocean. Thus lower Loire would be towards Nantes, which is muscadet country. Did I get this wrong?

Geographically you are correct, sir, snide comments notwithstanding.

And was Girardin always considered gauche? I thought during the 80's they were considered 'ok' and a step above what was coming out of Burgundy at the time?
 
originally posted by MarkS:
Like, Pouilly?

I reckoned 'down' applied to 'river' means towards its meeting point with the ocean. Thus lower Loire would be towards Nantes, which is muscadet country. Did I get this wrong?

Geographically you are correct, sir, snide comments notwithstanding.

And was Girardin always considered gauche? I thought during the 80's they were considered 'ok' and a step above what was coming out of Burgundy at the time?

Snide? I think she was just messin' with me, in the spirit of the board.

As to Girardin, I'm still finding my feet in b'y, but this one wine had no real beauty to it, in any event. I'll try my other bottle in a couple of years.
 
I disagree with Sharon's characterization of Girardin at least to the extent it conveys a wholesale dismissal of all of his wines. I don't disagree with Ian's characterization of the 99 champans, however - Girardin's 99s were a mixed bag - some stunning (bonnes mares, beze, rsv, charmes, supposedly some of the cortons but I've not tasted those) but others were significantly less good and I think that describes his volnays - my notes on the chenes were "eh" which isn't too positive. But if you know which crus to buy from him (some of his sources are better than others) you can get some excellent burg for the buck.
 
As usual I agree with Maureen. To dismiss such a committed and hardworking gentleman in two words just seems unnecessary-I may not like the results in certain cases, and there's no question that he was driven to expand too far and too fast, but there's no question that he's a serious person,who may have taken nonintervention a little too far in the vintages of the late nineties. His Volnay Santenots is excellent and ageworthy.
 
originally posted by Arjun Mendiratta:
Had a really nice '02 Rollin Pernand 1er last night at Terroir. This producer had not been on my radar...

i like just about everything rollin produces. my experience with the corton is limited, but the pernand blanc is wonderful. always great minerality with very judicious use of oak.(i think @ 20% new) the reds are always fun, especially the 1er ile des vergelesses.
 
originally posted by Arjun Mendiratta:
Had a really nice '02 Rollin Pernand 1er last night at Terroir. This producer had not been on my radar...

i like just about everything rollin produces. my experience with the corton is limited, but the pernand blanc is wonderful. always great minerality with very judicious use of oak.(i think @ 20% new) the reds are always fun, especially the 1er ile des vergelesses.
 
I've only had a couple of Rollin's 1er Pernands from the 02 vintage, but they were admirable. His wines don't seem to be well distributed in the U.S.; or maybe they are quickly absorbed by the market.
 
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
I've only had a couple of Rollin's 1er Pernands from the 02 vintage, but they were admirable. His wines don't seem to be well distributed in the U.S.; or maybe they are quickly absorbed by the market.

Rollin is imported by Rosenthal and theoretically available everywhere Crochet Sancerre is available. The wines are excellent, although I've had some bad luck with oxidized bottles of 1995 and 1996 Corton-Charlemagne.

I had an excellent bottle of 2005 Briords over the weekend. Not typical Briords in that it is still holding some fat (actually more than some) but there is clarity and structure underneath. May not be in the vein of 2002 and 1996, but it is certainly something interesting and I'm looking forward to drinking mine over many years.
 
Apropos Rosenthal, Nathan, do you have any views on Cornu and Bitouzet-Prieur?

On the 05 Briords, I think maybe the wine in the mag was just too young. The last 750 I opened had started to show some expression, though - as you note - still under a lot of fat. I feel that the Briords do go through a dumb phase a couple of years after bottling.
 
originally posted by scottreiner:
originally posted by Arjun Mendiratta:
Had a really nice '02 Rollin Pernand 1er last night at Terroir. This producer had not been on my radar...

i like just about everything rollin produces. my experience with the corton is limited, but the pernand blanc is wonderful. always great minerality with very judicious use of oak.(i think @ 20% new) the reds are always fun, especially the 1er ile des vergelesses.

Same here. Even the village Savigny is revelatory with a few years on it. It's a pity that by the time the higher end '05s arrive in the US they'll be completely shut down.
 
I don't know about the Savigny, but we've opened three of the 06 hcdb now and like it very much. I think I opened the first one too soon after shipping.

FWIW, Jay, I'm guessing this would be right up your alley.

BTW, has anyone sampled his 01 wines?
 
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