The Monkey was right

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Cliff

Cliff Rosenberg
2002 Coudert Fleurie Clos de la Roilette - France, Burgundy, Beaujolais, Fleurie (9/8/2008)
The primary fruit is mostly gone, with only a touch of sap left that faded fast. It's still beautiful and hardly falling apart, but I've got to go with the Monkey and say that absolute prime-time has passed.
 
That would seem odd to me since we had a 99 Coudert last night that was beautiful, though well into Burgundification. I wouldn't hold that wine longer, but I could be wrong about that too. I'll check in on the 02 shortly.
 
That would seem odd to me, too. The '96 was lovely a few months back (okay, more like six months back), and I'd thought the '02 a better wine.

I guess some experimentation is in order.
 
I think it depends where you like them. If you want some of the sap of youth, try quickly as it's fading. If in fact the regular version Burgundifies, I'd wait awhile longer as it's really not there yet. Does it? I've never had a really mature version of the regular but have a few in the interest of science.

Edited to add: Duh, sounds like a yes. I look forward to seeing where these go; 2002 was the first year it dawned on me that I should be keeping a few to watch them develop.
 
Cliff,
I had that wine within the last couple days and thought it showing less than what it had. But I am not comfortable saying its past its best.
Best, Jim
 
originally posted by Florida Jim:
Cliff,
I had that wine within the last couple days and thought it showing less than what it had. But I am not comfortable saying its past its best.
Best, Jim
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Fair enough.
 
originally posted by SFJoe:
None of these are Tardive, right?
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Correct.

originally posted by Chris Coad:
o's drinking the '02 Tardive at this point?

Silly.
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Mea culpa! I have tried one, several months ago. Shockingly, it was nowhere near ready. A waste of supernal juice. Truly silly.
 
originally posted by Cliff:

originally posted by Chris Coad:
o's drinking the '02 Tardive at this point?

Silly.
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Mea culpa! I have tried one, several months ago. Shockingly, it was nowhere near ready. A waste of supernal juice. Truly silly.
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I had one a few months ago as well and quite agree.

1999, OTOH, is just pulling into the station.
 
is not the 1999. However, I'm drinking my 2002 and will drink my last bottle of 1999 within the year.

I'm not a necrophiliac.
 
But you are clearly a Burgundofile. You don't buy the claim that the regular version transmogrifies?
 
originally posted by VLM:
The 2002is not the 1999. However, I'm drinking my 2002 and will drink my last bottle of 1999 within the year.

I'm not a necrophiliac.
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Again, not Tardive. The '02 Tardive has quite a ways to go. The '99 is spectacular, and will continue to be so for quite a while.
 
But I'm curious about general consensus on the transformation of the regular version, this 2002 constituting my oldest specimen to date.
 
The 99 I refered to was the regular. I also have a memory that the monkey has a sometimes preference for the regular over the tardive and did so in 02 (if he denies that, I'm wrong, since it is a memory from threads long ago and disappeared into the ether), so I'm wondering if the status of that preference really meant for drinking earlier rather than later. It didn't seem so then.
 
I liked the 2002 regular more than the Tardive, but that has been my reaction to them young more often than not. 2005 was the first time it was reversed.
 
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
The 99 I refered to was the regular. I also have a memory that the monkey has a sometimes preference for the regular over the tardive and did so in 02 (if he denies that, I'm wrong, since it is a memory from threads long ago and disappeared into the ether), so I'm wondering if the status of that preference really meant for drinking earlier rather than later. It didn't seem so then.
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You keep good track of preferences Professor.
 
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