Zin-icism

originally posted by MLipton:
Words to live by
originally posted by Lou Kessler:

A derogatory remark about "Draper perfume" if I were you I would stay out of the Detroit area. I'm sure by tomorrow there will be a contract out on you.
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Since you signed this with the secret U-U hand signal, Lou, I know you're on the up and up. The good news is that I've managed to stay out of Detroit for the first 50 years of my life, so maybe I can manage the same trick for the next 50...

Mark Lipton
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Don't relax The Gang Of Pour have hit men who will travel. So I've been led to believe.
 
So I was driving down the road toward Chateauneuf du Pape sometime in the last couple of weeks (how I love that sentence), and France Musique, which was going into one of its odd popular song moments, started playing all the sound track music from Rio Bravo. Songs by Dean Martin and Ricky Nelson are usually not my cup of tea, but I've always loved Rio Bravo, and driving through the French countryside, there was something particularly entrancing about singing along with Dean and Ricky to "My Pony, My Rifle and Me," as if it were a French song, which for the moment it had become (French film critics also liked Rio Bravo before American ones did, so now you can start all the Jerry Lewis jokes).

That's what I like about Zinfandel, when I do like it and I do like it now and again.
 
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
That's what I like about Zinfandel, when I do like it and I do like it now and again.
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How does that differ from the pleasure of liking Chateauneuf du Pape? :)
 
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
So I was driving down the road toward Chateauneuf du Pape sometime in the last couple of weeks (how I love that sentence), and France Musique, which was going into one of its odd popular song moments, started playing all the sound track music from Rio Bravo. Songs by Dean Martin and Ricky Nelson are usually not my cup of tea, but I've always loved Rio Bravo, and driving through the French countryside, there was something particularly entrancing about singing along with Dean and Ricky to "My Pony, My Rifle and Me," as if it were a French song, which for the moment it had become (French film critics also liked Rio Bravo before American ones did, so now you can start all the Jerry Lewis jokes).
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Tex Ritter'd be proud.
Best, Jim
 
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
So I was driving down the road toward Chateauneuf du Pape sometime in the last couple of weeks (how I love that sentence), and France Musique, which was going into one of its odd popular song moments, started playing all the sound track music from Rio Bravo.
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A few years ago, I was driving around Piedmont, and Italian radio played "Macho Man" by the Village People, followed by an uptempo remix of "Hava Negila".
 
originally posted by Florida Jim:
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
So I was driving down the road toward Chateauneuf du Pape sometime in the last couple of weeks (how I love that sentence), and France Musique, which was going into one of its odd popular song moments, started playing all the sound track music from Rio Bravo. Songs by Dean Martin and Ricky Nelson are usually not my cup of tea, but I've always loved Rio Bravo, and driving through the French countryside, there was something particularly entrancing about singing along with Dean and Ricky to "My Pony, My Rifle and Me," as if it were a French song, which for the moment it had become (French film critics also liked Rio Bravo before American ones did, so now you can start all the Jerry Lewis jokes).
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Tex Ritter'd be proud.
Best, Jim
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When France Musique plays him, he's Texe Rittere.
 
"Ridge, in particular, was disappointing. I think that "Draper Perfume" is really a disguised term for "excessive coconut-caramel oak". The oak treatment was overwhelming, whether in the Geyserville or Lytton or other Zin or Syrah, and dominated each of these wines to the extent that the oak obscured any varietal typicity. I have a high regard for Ridge's history and accomplishments, but I no longer enjoy their wines."

Asher sleeps with the fishes.
 
European radio is awful. They have a lot of things figured out over there, but music on the radio is not one of them.
 
originally posted by mlawton:
European radio is awful. They have a lot of things figured out over there, but music on the radio is not one of them.
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Why would you listen to music on the radio!

The Archers aside, BBC4 is on average more cosmopolitan than NPR, although only because NPR often has local programs with a limited range of interest. (That said, I am very pleased with both). And then France Culture is a very special thing and even if not always tolerable to listen to, I am glad that it exists.
 
At the risk of Bree's wrath, I will never again buy Ridge without tasting first. Too many untrustworthy wines, of late.
 
No worries.

I just think some folks are trying to reduce all things Ridge to generalizations. It simply doesn't work. Like any other label, some releases are early drinkers - the 1998 and 2000 Zins come to mind; others take quite a while to come around - the 1999 Geyserville is classic and still has not reached prime time.

I can understand having difficulty drawing a bead on a wine's window of enjoyment, or simply not caring for a particular release, but some of this talk is just plain silly. Hyperbole is no substitute for appropriate sensory evaluation.

Is it time to talk about hurling yet?
 
Ridge is offering a library release of the 1992 Geyserville, FWIW. They appear to have a few bottles left for those with spare cash laying about.
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by mlawton:
European radio is awful. They have a lot of things figured out over there, but music on the radio is not one of them.
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Why would you listen to music on the radio!

The Archers aside, BBC4 is on average more cosmopolitan than NPR, although only because NPR often has local programs with a limited range of interest. (That said, I am very pleased with both). And then France Culture is a very special thing and even if not always tolerable to listen to, I am glad that it exists.
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We listen to France Musique in France because it gets us classical music as well as playing live broadcasts of the Choregie, which has become too expensive for us to go to live. That station also plays programs with various kinds of songs from various periods. That's where I first heard the songs of Charles Trenet. When it's programing gets too weird, there is France Classique, which is a better classical music channel than any I get in DC. Unless you already own all the music you want to hear, the radio is a perfectly good place to discover new things.
 
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg: Unless you already own all the music you want to hear, the radio is a perfectly good place to discover new things.
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Oh yes, of course. I realize my own radio uses may not be the norm.
 
Rahsaan, sometimes one needs to drive from say Lyon to Colmar. The train would be another option but sometimes a car is nice.

While I'm sure the classical music stations are nice, their
"pop"/rock music taste is odd at best.
 
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by mlawton:
European radio is awful. They have a lot of things figured out over there, but music on the radio is not one of them.
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Why would you listen to music on the radio!

The Archers aside, BBC4 is on average more cosmopolitan than NPR, although only because NPR often has local programs with a limited range of interest. (That said, I am very pleased with both). And then France Culture is a very special thing and even if not always tolerable to listen to, I am glad that it exists.
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We listen to France Musique in France because it gets us classical music as well as playing live broadcasts of the Choregie, which has become too expensive for us to go to live. That station also plays programs with various kinds of songs from various periods. That's where I first heard the songs of Charles Trenet. When it's programing gets too weird, there is France Classique, which is a better classical music channel than any I get in DC. Unless you already own all the music you want to hear, the radio is a perfectly good place to discover new things.
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We were quite entertained by listening to Skyrock in the car while traveling in France. Basically pure pop, rap, hip-hop (all unedited). Not being able to understand the DJ's was at least half the entertainment value. French knock-offs of American pop culture always entertain me, Banlieue 13, is a good example.

Honestly, your traveling in a foreign country, go native.
 
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