TN: Dinner with the fellahs: Muscadet, Vouvray, Cornas, St. Joseph and Primitivo

To my tastes, give me Giacosa, G. Conterno, Mascarello, Vietti and Giuseppe Rinaldi instead.
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Well, yeah, but I'd also rather not spend $120+ per bottle of barolo. Of course, Capellano is no slouch in the pricing either, at $90+.
 
originally posted by Jay Miller:
Interesting. I'll guess

2007 Grand Fief de LAudigre- Muscadet, Svre & Maine Michel
2002 Huet- Vouvray Demi-Sec, Le Haut-Lieu Brad
2001 Thierry Allemand- Cornas Sans Soufre Michel?
1994 Nol Verset- Cornas Keith
1989 Gonon- St. Joseph Manuel
2006 Christano Guttarolo- Primitivo Gioia del Colle Anfora, Puglia Keith

How'd I do?
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50%. Fail.

2007 Grand Fief de LAudigre- Muscadet, Svre & Maine- Michel
2002 Huet- Vouvray Demi-Sec, Le Haut-Lieu- Brad
2001 Thierry Allemand- Cornas Sans Soufre- Keith
1994 Nol Verset- Cornas- Keith
1989 Gonon- St. Joseph- Michel
2006 Christano Guttarolo- Primitivo Gioia del Colle Anfora, Puglia- Manuel

I also opened up a de Venoge Champagne that I didn't post on and Manuel brought a '92 Hans Wirsching- Riesling Spatelese Trocken, Iphofer Julus-Echter-Berg that I've had before and thought was terrible, so I didn't see the need to try it again. All at the table reported it dead.
 
You know, I originally had Manuel for the Italian but then corrected myself thinking that if it was Italian it was more likely that Keith brought it.

So (and this question is for someone other than Brad) is de Venoge Champagne as bad as I've always heard?
 
originally posted by Jay Miller:
You know, I originally had Manuel for the Italian but then corrected myself thinking that if it was Italian it was more likely that Keith brought it.

So (and this question is for someone other than Brad) is de Venoge Champagne as bad as I've always heard?
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I don't love it, but then you know I'm not a big fan of all Champagne. Everyone else seemed to like it, though. It was the NV Brut Cordon Bleu.
 
originally posted by Brad Kane:
originally posted by Jay Miller:
You know, I originally had Manuel for the Italian but then corrected myself thinking that if it was Italian it was more likely that Keith brought it.

So (and this question is for someone other than Brad) is de Venoge Champagne as bad as I've always heard?
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I don't love it, but then you know I'm not a big fan of all Champagne. Everyone else seemed to like it, though. It was the NV Brut Cordon Bleu.
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I've always found the de Venoge Champagne to be too extreme.

Rahsaan teels me that Jenny & Franois now handle them.

I think David Lillie has this in his notes.
 
originally posted by Joe Dressner:
originally posted by Brad Kane:
originally posted by Jay Miller:
You know, I originally had Manuel for the Italian but then corrected myself thinking that if it was Italian it was more likely that Keith brought it.

So (and this question is for someone other than Brad) is de Venoge Champagne as bad as I've always heard?
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I don't love it, but then you know I'm not a big fan of all Champagne. Everyone else seemed to like it, though. It was the NV Brut Cordon Bleu.
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I've always found the de Venoge Champagne to be too extreme.
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You owe me a stripped bass, Joe. Don't think I haven't forgotten.
 
The Venoge was good objectively speaking but better than good in the "commercial NV Champagne" genre - if you ordered a glass of Champagne in a random bar and got that, you'd be pretty happy.
 
originally posted by Claude Kolm:
originally posted by Brad Kane:
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
originally posted by Brad Kane:
originally posted by Jay Miller:
Interesting. I'll guess
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50%. Fail.
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Now, will you all please pull down your pants, so I can see the size of your...
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You say that to all the boys, Ms. Bowman.
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She's a voyeuse.

. . . Or maybe she's just a bean counter.
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voy⋅euse  /vwaˈyz/
noun, plural voy⋅euses  /vwaˈyz/
French Furniture. a chair of the 18th century used at game tables, having a padded top rail on which spectators could lean.

I don't know whether this is insulting or not.
 
For the Cappellano fans on this thread, today Crush sent an e-mail re: the 2003 Barolo Pie Rupestris, under $50. Of course, it's an '03....
 
originally posted by Asher:
For the Cappellano fans on this thread, today Crush sent an e-mail re: the 2003 Barolo Pie Rupestris, under $50. Of course, it's an '03....
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You beat me to it. Of course I was going to comment on Brad's ability as a market mover since all he had to do was say he wasn't a fan and it's immediately put on sale for 30% off.
 
originally posted by Asher:
For the Cappellano fans on this thread, today Crush sent an e-mail re: the 2003 Barolo Pie Rupestris, under $50. Of course, it's an '03....
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I recall someone (VS?) saying that '03 wasn't as torrid in parts S of France as it was in France and Germany. Anyone confirm/deny? Are there tales of roasted '03 Baroli at hand?

Mark Lipton
 
It wasn't as anywhere as bad in Italy as it was in France and Germany. I've tasted through a lot of B&B from 2003 and it's an ok vintage -- nothing like 2001 or 2004 or even 2000, but way, way better than 2002.
 
I'm not a fan of '03 Barolo. I find the fruit a little too ripe and the tannins a bit too green.

I do like '03 Barbera, though.
 
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