Mindless Chat from MI: Segura Heredad, Eli's, Chandon de Briailles Question

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Ian Fitzsimmons

Ian Fitzsimmons
In MI this week visiting relatives. We opened the festivities with a bottle of Segura Heredad. I didn't take notes on the flavors, but this is the third bottle I've tried, and the umami, moutfeel, mousse, and food compatibility are terrific. With sparkling wine like this on the market at ca. $20, I can't understand how the luxery Champagne houses sell their NVs. Seriously.

I finally discovered Elie's, a small but dense wine shop in Royal Oak, outside of Detroit, that I'd heard of but never visited before. A true wine geek shop, narrow aisles stacked to the ceiling with crates of top-class Burgundy, Bordeaux and other (mostly French) wines. Lots of magnums and double magnums - about five cases of 2002 (first release year) Christian Moreau Grand Cru Chablis in magnums. Very nice proprietor (Elie) with a lovely seven-month-old daughter. Michigan pricing, so no bargains, but a great place to shop. Haven't seen him on Winesearcher. Many Dressner, Rosenthal, and Lynch selections. No affiliation.

Elie, by the way, showed me a bottle of Alliet, who he says is now one of the top producers in Chinon. I haven't read about this vintner here before, and wondered what the Loire zealots have to say about him.

Completely unrelated, I bought some bottles (magnums) of Chandon de Briallies a bit ago and found on receipt that the bottle capsules hung loose. There was no sign of damage (folding or unfolding) to the capsules, and no sign of cork movement, either in or out. The capsules were perfectly shaped, just a touch wide at the bottom, so that they hang slightly loose, rather than being tightly wrapped, as with most producers. Is this normal for Chandon, or should I be concerned?
 
Alliet, who he says is now one of the top producers in Chinon. I haven't read about this vintner here before, and wondered what the Loire zealots have to say about him
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I don't follow as closely as others but the wines have struck me in the past as good gusty forward ripe renditions of Chinon.
 
I've had good wines from Alliet and some that seemed to modern for my tastes. "Modern" is code for new oak and no brett, by the way. Can't remember which bottlings though and I haven't had anything from recent vintages.
 
Ian, I remember asking about Alliet wines before and someone replied the Chinon Vielles Vignes bottle was the non-modern one. In the way Kay used modern.
 
haven't had the Heredad, but have had the Segura Viudas Brut Reserva a few times and remember it as very pleasant....clean, dry, minerally, nice mousse etc.....great qpr for around $12
 
We used to drink this quite often, too; but, after a while, found it too sere for routine drinking. Try the Heredad some time. The bottle is hideous, but the wine is fine.
 
Ian, is the Cava you're talking about the one with an absurdly heavy, metal-adorned bottle? I think it's a coat of arms or family crest.
 
I'm not Ian, but yes, Slaton, I believe that's the one.

Ian, I couldn't decipher "to sere" in your comment above. Pardon my ignorance, is that a typo, or another language?
 
Mark: yes. It takes some courage to haul the thing up to the cash register in front of other people, but it's worth it.

Joel: Sere: adj. Withered; dry: sere vegetation at the edge of the desert.

In my personal idiolect, to and too are interchangeable. Just kidding, it's a typo. I do this often enough that I'm beginning to think I may actually suffer from some form of dyslexia.
 
Hey, the bottle of Heredad Segura Viudas is rather sedate in the wacky world of cava bottles, where there's one that can only stand if stuck in an ice bucket...

Showing... the wonderful Agust Torell Krypta:

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It looks like a giant time-release capsule.

I visited Elie's again this week and, coincidentally, his wife (I think) is coming out with a new book on Cava wines soon.
 
originally posted by VS:
Hey, the bottle of Heredad Segura Viudas is rather sedate in the wacky world of cava bottles, where there's one that can only stand if stuck in an ice bucket...

Showing... the wonderful Agust Torell Krypta:

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is that meant to be put in the ground?
 
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
Mark: yes. It takes some courage to haul the thing up to the cash register in front of other people, but it's worth it.

Joel: Sere: adj. Withered; dry: sere vegetation at the edge of the desert.

In my personal idiolect, to and too are interchangeable. Just kidding, it's a typo. I do this often enough that I'm beginning to think I may actually suffer from some form of dyslexia.
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ok

what i liked about the $12 version was that it was a good masquerade at blonkety blonk
 
originally posted by Joel Stewart:
is that meant to be put in the ground?
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I guess that, as I said, the idea is to move it from the fridge to an ice bucket and leave it there until empty... Wacky, again.
 
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