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originally posted by Sharon Bowman:

Hat's off, VLM, hat's off.
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Pedantic query: isn't the expression "hats off" employing the plural? I'd always assumed that it was phrased in the imperative to command an ovation.

Mark Lipton
 
See, I have never known!

Is it "the hat is off"? (Being that one is one person, with one head for one hat.) Or is it "hats off" (i.e. "the hats are off," as of a group of people)?

You see it as: "Hey! Everyone! Take those hats off, now!"?
 
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
See, I have never known!

Is it "the hat is off"? (Being that one is one person, with one head for one hat.) Or is it "hats off" (i.e. "the hats are off," as of a group of people)?

You see it as: "Hey! Everyone! Take those hats off, now!"?
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FWIW, Google sees my interpretation as a 1000:1 favorite.

Mark Lipton
 
originally posted by MLipton:
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
See, I have never known!

Is it "the hat is off"? (Being that one is one person, with one head for one hat.) Or is it "hats off" (i.e. "the hats are off," as of a group of people)?

You see it as: "Hey! Everyone! Take those hats off, now!"?
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FWIW, Google sees my interpretation as a 1000:1 favorite.

Mark Lipton
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Google Wars - Yellow Tail:Sylvie Esmonin is 1418:1. Let's not put too much faith in numbers.
 
I would always use the plural, "Hats off!", even when referring to a single person because it is really an idiomatic phrase; the dictionary definition, while consonant, is not relevant in this age of gentlemen generally not wearing hats.
 
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
I would always use the plural, "Hats off!", even when referring to a single person because it is really an idiomatic phrase; the dictionary definition, while consonant, is not relevant in this age of gentlemen generally not wearing hats.
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Hey, I'm wearing a hat right now.
 
originally posted by Howard Cooper:
So, customers = screwed
growers = screwed
LVMH = problem solved
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Independent growers are not necessarily screwed in this situation - it depends on their contracts with the wineries. During a period of excess supply, the worse thing for a grower is to be without a contract, selling on the spot market. So those guys are probably relieved. On the other hand, growers with a contract that are paid by the ton and now told to cut yields 40% are probably not too happy.
 
originally posted by Christian Miller (CMM):
originally posted by Howard Cooper:
So, customers = screwed
growers = screwed
LVMH = problem solved
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Independent growers are not necessarily screwed in this situation - it depends on their contracts with the wineries. During a period of excess supply, the worse thing for a grower is to be without a contract, selling on the spot market. So those guys are probably relieved. On the other hand, growers with a contract that are paid by the ton and now told to cut yields 40% are probably not too happy.
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Try not to disturb the thread drift.
 
originally posted by Tom Glasgow:
originally posted by Christian Miller (CMM):
originally posted by Howard Cooper:
So, customers = screwed
growers = screwed
LVMH = problem solved
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Independent growers are not necessarily screwed in this situation - it depends on their contracts with the wineries. During a period of excess supply, the worse thing for a grower is to be without a contract, selling on the spot market. So those guys are probably relieved. On the other hand, growers with a contract that are paid by the ton and now told to cut yields 40% are probably not too happy.
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Try not to disturb the thread drift.
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One's reaction time really declines with age...
 
originally posted by Tom Glasgow:
originally posted by Christian Miller (CMM):
originally posted by Howard Cooper:
So, customers = screwed
growers = screwed
LVMH = problem solved
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Independent growers are not necessarily screwed in this situation - it depends on their contracts with the wineries. During a period of excess supply, the worse thing for a grower is to be without a contract, selling on the spot market. So those guys are probably relieved. On the other hand, growers with a contract that are paid by the ton and now told to cut yields 40% are probably not too happy.
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Try not to disturb the thread drift.
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Sorry, but I have really never thought about whether it's hats off or hat's off. Can I give an opinion anyway? Kind of treat it like a highly rated wine I have not tasted?
 
originally posted by Bwood:
I think we could call Chapeau! about this whole "hat's off/hats off" issue.

jb (who votes "hat's off")
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Sometimes you just have tip your cap and go back to the dugout.
 
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