WD1YATNLOLROFLOMG: 2005 Tissot Arbois Poulsard

[Arjun Mendiratta]

Oh, Jura bottle, you are so distinctive.

Anyway, when you pour this into your glass, you notice just a bit of orange at the rim, and perhaps it is the power of synaesthetic suggestion, but it smells and tastes that way too. Suggestions of game and underbrush on the nose, maybe a hint of cinnamon, the palate is remarkably creamy and rich, and yet the acid and tannin combine to create an all-encompassing grip such that the wine is grabbing you by the shoulders and shaking you at the very same time that it's patting your head gently and making cooing noises, and, really, isn't that what we all want?

 

[Rahsaan]

originally posted by Arjun Mendiratta: you notice just a bit of orange at the rim, and perhaps it is the power of synaesthetic suggestion, but it smells and tastes that way too..

I have also thought about that and the power of suggestion when drinking these wines. Doesn't really matter because they're so fun but I guess the only way to really figure it out would be blind tasting.

 

[Levi Dalton]

originally posted by Rahsaan:

originally posted by Arjun Mendiratta: you notice just a bit of orange at the rim, and perhaps it is the power of synaesthetic suggestion, but it smells and tastes that way too..

I have also thought about that and the power of suggestion when drinking these wines. Doesn't really matter because they're so fun but I guess the only way to really figure it out would be blind tasting.

Like with black glasses? Or with blind people, or what?

I believe he is talking about the color of the liquid in the glass.

 

[SFJoe]

originally posted by Levi Dalton:

originally posted by Rahsaan:

originally posted by Arjun Mendiratta: you notice just a bit of orange at the rim, and perhaps it is the power of synaesthetic suggestion, but it smells and tastes that way too..

I have also thought about that and the power of suggestion when drinking these wines. Doesn't really matter because they're so fun but I guess the only way to really figure it out would be blind tasting.

Like with black glasses? Or with blind people, or what?

I believe he is talking about the color of the liquid in the glass.

Sharp stick in the eye.

 

[Rahsaan]

originally posted by Levi Dalton:

Like with black glasses? Or with blind people, or what?

I believe he is talking about the color of the liquid in the glass.

I know he is talking about the color of the liquid. So my use of "blind tasting" in that past post may not have been conventional (oh the joyous memories of debates over single vs. double-blind terminology), it would be possible to blindfold people and see how they respond to these Jura wines. Although I think the texture would also give things away and help conjure up all those tactile cinnamon wonders.

 

[Levi Dalton]

I guess the real question is, if we covered the nose and mouth of one of these "blind" people you refer to, but left the wine visible to their eyes, would the color of the liquid still be orange?

 

[Arjun Mendiratta]

Perhaps I wasn't clear: the orange was a signifier of the effects of age, not the effects of winemaking.

Also, it has been demonstrated that even quite experienced tasters cannot reliably distinguish red wine from white when they are unable to see the wine. The issue is that we are used to using our senses in concert, not in isolation. Perhaps things are different among the truly blind. Anyway, this has all been addressed by Andrew Jefford or David Schildkanizzle or another one of those smart people in The World of Fine Wine, which, as they say, is an excellent publication and you should all subscribe.

 

[Levi Dalton]

originally posted by Arjun Mendiratta:

Perhaps things are different among the truly blind. Anyway, this has all been addressed by Andrew Jefford or David Schildkanizzle or another one of those smart people in The World of Fine Wine, which, as they say, is an excellent publication and you should all subscribe.

Andrew Jefford is blind?

I had no idea.

Is The World of Fine Wine available in braille?

 

[slaton]

I think in this case, orange is a signifier of the wine being poulsard, rather than age.

 

[Arjun Mendiratta]

Well, it didn't look like that kind of orange, but I'll defer to the expert. (I do love the Poulsard varietal.)

 

[Levi Dalton]

What kind of blind tasting is it where you defer to the guy who wasn't there tasting the wine?

Is that like a Google Blind tasting?

 

[Arjun Mendiratta]

Levi, we're out here on the west coast; we've still got an hour or so of deference left.

 

[Levi Dalton]

Ok, that was funny.