Monier St. Joseph

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SFJoe

Joe Dougherty
My first experience with this biodynamic house was this 2007. Is it possible that their yields are a little low? I find the wine a little thick and slow-footed for St. Joseph. Maybe it needs time, but for now there are a few other producers' wines I'd rather have from St. Joe. Much as I love the AOC, of course.
 
originally posted by SFJoe:
Monier St. JosephMy first experience with this biodynamic house was this 2007. Is it possible that their yields are a little low? I find the wine a little thick and slow-footed for St. Joseph. Maybe it needs time, but for now there are a few other producers' wines I'd rather have from St. Joe. Much as I love the AOC, of course.
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I haven't had the 2007 because I thought the prior vintages that I had tasted to be so, at best, mediocre. Monier's vines are in an area that is not traditionally one of the fine St-Joseph areas, although to be fair, the potential of the region where he is is somewhat unknown.
 
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
Console yourselfI had the same vintage of Cuilleron, "Pierres Sches" rendition, a couple ago.

Talk of thick and slow-footed.
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Wait --I thought you were ready to marry the guy?
 
But I would say Gonon, Graillot, Dard & Ribo, for instance.

Also, I think we should applaud SFJoe for his insistent patronage of self-named appellations.

This is why I only eat persimmons.
 
I like Phillipe Faury, and have been curious to try Bernard Faurie which I've heard good things about. The Chave Estate St Joseph isn't bad either.

I work at a St Josephs, the wines make nice gifts for the upper management types. I haven't tried to give any to the Sisters yet, I don't think that would go over too well.
 
originally posted by Marc D:
I like Phillipe Faury, and have been curious to try Bernard Faurie which I've heard good things about. The Chave Estate St Joseph isn't bad either.
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My list of St. "Joe" producers is: Gonon, Faury, Faurie and Chave. I haven't had the Dard et Ribo version, and the one Souhaut I had just left me slightly perplexed. I'll be interested to try a Graillot St. J, too, when one crosses my path.

Mark Lipton
 
I tried the Dard et Ribo only once, and on that day I liked their Crozes a lot more than the St Joseph. I have to track down a bottle from Bernard Faurie.
 
I haven't had Perret in a few vintages, but used to like them very much.

Chave estate used to be cheap, and is still good. Gonon, Faurie, D&R all vg.
 
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
Anyone have experience with Andre Perret or Dom. Cheze?
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Perret is very good. He, like Faury, is from the northern part of the appellation, near Cte-Rtie, which the wines resemble. Gilles Barge also has a good St-Jo from up there.

In addition to names mentioned by others, other good St-Jo producers from the southern, traditional part, of the appellation include B.& F. Gripa, Florentin (very, very old fashioned), Desestret (along with Gonon, heir to Trollat's vines), Courbis (have improved markedly in recent years), Coursodon (but not the oaky Sensonne bottling), Durand (not quite up to the others, but improving), Dom. du Tunnel/S. Robert.

Chze is very modern style.
 
Ah, yes, du Tunnel. Good catch.

Good to hear about Courbis. I've had some real crap wine from them, was it '96 Cornas? I got a few in a mixed auction lot (bought it for the mags of '94 Trollat), and it was nasty.
 
originally posted by SFJoe:
Ah, yes, du Tunnel. Good catch.

Good to hear about Courbis. I've had some real crap wine from them, was it '96 Cornas? I got a few in a mixed auction lot (bought it for the mags of '94 Trollat), and it was nasty.
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'98 or '99 was the first Cornas vintage from Courbis where they seemed to be changing.
 
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