Anyone with news on the 2nd release of '02 Huet Petillant - now with bonus tasting note

originally posted by Keith Levenberg:
OK, confused now! So does that make it the same exact wine as the prior release or has it been longer on the lees?
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don't know, I only read what was posted on the website. I'll follow up.
 
Ah, now the page explains everything. "(Note; Lyle's note is from the first disgorgment - the current cuve is the second bottling and was disgorged in the summer of 2009. There will be a third, no doubt more expensive, and final bottling, labeled "Reserve" in 2010)"
 
originally posted by Keith Levenberg:
Ah, now the page explains everything. "(Note; Lyle's note is from the first disgorgment - the current cuve is the second bottling and was disgorged in the summer of 2009. There will be a third, no doubt more expensive, and final bottling, labeled "Reserve" in 2010)"
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I just snagged a few of this new 2nd restock - and will post notes when I get the courage to try one..
 
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
No, I just want Johnathan to go drink that second release Huet and tell us about it.
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First you have to learn to spell the name that he and I share.

On this whole Huet second and third release business, can anyone in (as I say to my senior thesis students) explain in 3 or fewer crisp, clear sentences how later releases differ from earlier ones with regard to taste and aging capacity? I know I'm supposed to keep my cotton picking hands of the 02s that I bought (which I'm really not succeeding at doing) but I'm an Huet sparkler newbie and need instruction. Am I looking to buy to restock or am I looking to buy a new version of the wine or both?
 
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
No, I just want Johnathan to go drink that second release Huet and tell us about it.
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The wine is en route from Chambers to me. 600 miles. I will open it and report back as soon as I fucking can...

thanks!
 
I've only had the 1st release.

I bet the others are good, too.

Since the Reserve will have a different dosage, I expect it to be more differentiated.

I'll taste the new one soon, I suppose.
 
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
No, I just want Johnathan to go drink that second release Huet and tell us about it.
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First you have to learn to spell the name that he and I share.
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Not necessarily.

originally posted by jonathanseeds:
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
No, I just want Johnathan to go drink that second release Huet and tell us about it.
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The wine is en route from Chambers to me. 600 miles. I will open it and report back as soon as I fucking can...

thanks!
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Merci!
 
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
originally posted by SFJoe:
more differentiated
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None of these syntactic half-measures. I think you should go whole Derrida hog and say that it will have more diffrance.
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Alas this change would not help me understand since, according to Derrida, diffrance is neither a word nor a concept and thus cannot designate anything in the bubbly nor be designated by anything else.
 
From my personal experience I would say that the bottle looks identical to the earlier bottle and also looks heavy enough not to want to carry it along with 2 750s from storage and a magnum of Pierre Peters Champagne from Chambers. Further updates when I pass by Chambers St. next in a less encumbered state.
 
originally posted by SFJoe:
I've only had the 1st release.

I bet the others are good, too.

Since the Reserve will have a different dosage, I expect it to be more differentiated.

I'll taste the new one soon, I suppose.
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Have you had first and second releases of prior vintages? Can you extrapolate from their differences to likely differences here? Or is all this interest in second releases really just fideism based on reverence for Huet (as justified as such reverence is, but still...).
 
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:

Have you had first and second releases of prior vintages? Can you extrapolate from their differences to likely differences here? Or is all this interest in second releases really just fideism based on reverence for Huet (as justified as such reverence is, but still...).
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Never heard of it or considered it before, in truth.

This sort of thing is actually pretty common--wines released with the same label but different bottling times, perhaps a slightly different blend. Small and large producers do it.

I think no one mentions it because producers don't want to get into this level of confusing detail with consumers.

I will reserve judgement about fideism and Huet.
 
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
This conversation must be skewed to include the RD debate, you all do know.
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I thought 8 years en tirage was too negligible to count in the RD debate?
 
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
No, I just want Johnathan to go drink that second release Huet and tell us about it.
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First you have to learn to spell the name that he and I share.

On this whole Huet second and third release business, can anyone in (as I say to my senior thesis students) explain in 3 or fewer crisp, clear sentences how later releases differ from earlier ones with regard to taste and aging capacity? I know I'm supposed to keep my cotton picking hands of the 02s that I bought (which I'm really not succeeding at doing) but I'm an Huet sparkler newbie and need instruction. Am I looking to buy to restock or am I looking to buy a new version of the wine or both?
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Your 1st-batch '02s are for the ages. I bought and held and consumed in mass quantities, and still have quite a few in the cellar. I am in zero hurry, and I like them so well I don't expect to have them displaced in my affections by subsequent wines. Supplemented, perhaps.

The next batch will be that much closer to its recent disgorgement. And was, what, an extra 15 months on the lees, I suppose? I doubt there will be a huge difference in ageability of the wines, but let's try them and see.

The Reserve has a quite different dosage, and still more lees time. I expect it to be more distinct, shall we say?
 
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