TN: Dinner with Stephen South: Meyer-Fonne, two Huet, Trimbach, Cune, Jamet & Soldera

Brad Kane

Brad Kane
Stephen South paid a visit to my hometown last week, his second trip up here in the past six weeks. We couldn't connect in August, but with his waving a '90 Trimbach Frdric mile and '98 Jamet as bait, I was able to muster up Suzanne Camhi and Jay Miller with only a couple of days notice for a lovely Thursday night dinner at Il Corso which we quickly dubbed the crumbly cork jeebus due to four corks breaking apart while being opened. Great to finally meet Steve and many thanks for his giving us the excuse to open up some nice bottles with friends. In fact, we brought too much wine. We ended up not opening a '99 Mascarello- Barolo Monprivato, a '71 Baumard Quarts de Chaume or a Brachetto whose producer I'm forgetting at the moment.

Cheers.

2004 Meyer-Fonn- Riesling, Pfoeller
Aromatic with tropical and stone fruit, a touch of petrol and a little sulfur that blew off with air. Initially, while tasty, it didn't seem to have much personality. It was like an ice skater just quickly gliding across the palate. The wine did build with air, however. Mineral tones came up as did some structure. There's sweetness, but it's balanced. Like flavors as aromas. I'm digging this. Shows a certain touch of class. Low A-.

2000 Huet- Vouvray Sec, Clos Du Bourg (from 375 ml)
What a nose! Smells like a bear just ripped open a bee's nest with its paw as the smell is just intense honey and honeycomb. However, as much sweetness as there was on the nose, it being a sec, there was none to be found on the palate. Dry and a bit severe, it shows plenty of honeycomb/wax and mineral, but not much else. It appears that it's reached its grumpy stage. I'd hold off for awhile. B+/B.

1990 Trimbach- Riesling "Frdric mile"
Golden colored with mineral, lightly nutty and citrus aromas. Good length and weight, but it's really starting to show its age. It's softened and has taken on aged nutty flavors to go along with the usual citrus profile. Dry, but ripe finish. I'd start to drink up. Fill and capsule was perfect, btw. A-.

1970 Cune- Rioja Gran Riserva "Via Real" (from 375 ml)
I recently had a half bottle from the same lot as this one, but mine didn't show nearly as well as this did. This was simply off the charts good and a remarkable showing from a half bottle. I couldn't get my nose out of the glass. It was like sitting in an old, well worn leather chair with wooden arms polished over the years by wear, reading a leather-bound book with pressed flowers in it while munching on a bowl of red cherries. Just mesmerizing. On the palate I'm stunned by the vibrancy and sweetness of the cherry fruit. In almost every bottle of this wine, be it from a full or half bottle, the fruit is much more in the background while the leather and dusty earth notes are more prominent. It's just the opposite here. The fruit is just astounding. Wonderfully balanced and just really singing. Bravo! Solid A to A+/A.

1998 Jamet- Cte-Rtie
I mentioned in a recent note that while I've always liked this wine, it always left me wanting a little more. That perhaps it needed more character. This bottle gave me exactly what I was looking for. Easily the most integrated and effusive bottle of this wine I've had. Just a knock-out nose that shows everything there is to love about the Northern Rhone; violets, garrigue, black pepper, black fruit, bacon and black olives. It's integrated and singing on the palate. Loads of bacon fat and black pepper with plenty of black fruit to support it all. Major yums here. Low A.

1994 Soldera- Brunello di Montalcino Riserva
What is it with these corks? The last bottle I tried of this, the '91 two years ago, snapped a waiter's helper worm in the cork and then pulled out one of the tines from an ah so we then used to try and pull it out. This cork was a toughie before it broke in half. At least this wine was infinitely better than the '91. This is a pretty muscular beast of a wine yet somehow manages to show a certain elegance as well. The fruit is beautiful. Just pure crushed red cherries and raspberries with mushroom, tree bark and earthy notes to satisfy one's intellectual curiosity. Compact and tannic with a touch of austerity on the finish, it went well with the short rib braised in balsamic, though I wish they had lamb shanks that night as I think that would've been an even better match. A-.

1985 Huet- Vouvray Moelleux, Clos Du Bourg
Always a lovely bottle and textbook, funky older Vouvray. Lots of Lanolin to this wine along with quince, chalky mineral and cheese rind. It's never really a blockbuster, but proud and typical. Moderately sweet with the ever present acid backbone. Like flavors as aromas with a bitter almond note on the finish. A-.

Some pics from the evening:

Why it was dubbed the crumbly cork jeebus.

Two wild and crazy guys!

A threesome.

What did I say to make Jay laugh so hard?
 
Re: the Trimbach, the fill and capsule might have been fine, but the cork clearly wasn't. That's a very advanced showing for the '90 CFE, which is certainly in its zone, but -- based on other bottles -- in the very, very early stages of it (unless you're VLM, in which case it's a decade too old). I'm in no special hurry to get to mine.
 
originally posted by Thor:
Re: the Trimbach, the fill and capsule might have been fine, but the cork clearly wasn't. That's a very advanced showing for the '90 CFE, which is certainly in its zone, but -- based on other bottles -- in the very, very early stages of it (unless you're VLM, in which case it's a decade too old). I'm in no special hurry to get to mine.

Well, that was one of (few) disagreements I had with Brad. I thought it was just opening rather than fading. But such things are an art rather than a science.

He's also wrong in that the '98 Jamet was showing pretty much identically to the one I opened at the mediocre suckling pig place a year or two ago when Guillaume Deschamps was visiting.

He is however right in that it was a very enjoyable evening with quite a bit of good wine and good company.
 
originally posted by Jay Miller:
originally posted by Thor:
Re: the Trimbach, the fill and capsule might have been fine, but the cork clearly wasn't. That's a very advanced showing for the '90 CFE, which is certainly in its zone, but -- based on other bottles -- in the very, very early stages of it (unless you're VLM, in which case it's a decade too old). I'm in no special hurry to get to mine.

Well, that was one of (few) disagreements I had with Brad. I thought it was just opening rather than fading. But such things are an art rather than a science.

I know you and I think Stephen thought it was getting better after a few hours, but I thought it had gotten worse. It smoothed out for sure, but I thought it lost its vibrancy. But, it's well known that you love dead and dying wines.

Personally, I thought it was an advanced bottle and not to start the whole Trimbach premox discussion again, this is not the first time I'm getting this from a '90 CFE or Hune and I'll say it again, some folks we know locally that are big Trimbach fans dumped their '90's awhile ago due to advancement warning signs and silly auction prices.

He's also wrong in that the '98 Jamet was showing pretty much identically to the one I opened at the mediocre suckling pig place a year or two ago when Guillaume Deschamps was visiting.

I agree that that was one of the better showings, though I thought last Thursday's bottle was marginally better. However, I had three other bottles between that one and this one as well as a bunch before the one at Solace and while always very nice, it's never wowed like this one did.
 
Jay, thanks for the reality check. I should have known better.

this is not the first time I'm getting this from a '90 CFE or Hune and I'll say it again, some folks we know locally that are big Trimbach fans dumped their '90's awhile ago due to advancement warning signs
Sounds like a regionally heat-damaged batch.
 
Well, we're not encouraged to use sarcasm-indicating emoticons, so some things have to stand on their own.
 
I've had the '90 CFE in both regular and VT forms six or seven times since a magical bottle several years ago (chez Lawton), and each time it has been corked or heat damaged.

Shame.
 
My 90 Trimbachs and 98 Jamets are nothing but delicious. I refuse to open another one of either now (too early, in my opinion) to confirm that belief, I've done that enough already to satisfy whatever doubts I may have had.

You all keep drinking yours, though - that's fine with me.
 
originally posted by Thor:
unless you're VLM

and you are rational.

I think that many wines benefit from a bit of age and some wines benefit from quite a bit of age. "Magical" older bottles are the exception, not the rule, and most wines aren't constituted to go that distance and even if they do, how many bottles out of a case will be magical after 25 years rather than 10?

Unless you are Jeff Connell and have an true aesthetic perversion a lot of this old wine stuff is nonsense.
 
originally posted by Thor:
Sorry, trolling me won't work.

OK, would you settle for CFE isn't a bottle, it is a wine. Not every bottle from every vintage will be that magical older bottle.
 
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
originally posted by VLM:
And
don't forget to decant your Barolo for 16 hours while you're at it.

Fucking English majors.

What did English majors do here? I wasn't even half following this thread.

It's a standard VLM generalized attribution.

You can probably safely ignore it.
 
OK, would you settle for CFE isn't a bottle, it is a wine. Not every bottle from every vintage will be that magical older bottle.
OK.

See, isn't all this genial agreement boring?
 
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