07 Baudry Chinon Franc de Pied

[Salil Benegal]

Liquid silk with an amazing scent of cigar smoke, herbs, fresh red and dark fruits and earthy notes. Wow.

I'm grabbing more of this tomorrow. (Thanks for the recommendation, Keith.)

 

[Rahsaan]

Good to see that you're keeping up the Chinon exploration. And with the right producers.

 

[VLM]

not for aging, for drinking.

 

[Keith Levenberg]

originally posted by VLM:
Remember
not for aging, for drinking.

I'm aging plenty. What's the oldest one you've had?

 

[Sharon Bowman]

Are you losing all your hair?

Oh... the wine, you mean.

 

[Arjun Mendiratta]

I thought red wine was supposed to prevent aging?

 

[VLM]

originally posted by Keith Levenberg:

originally posted by VLM:
Remember
not for aging, for drinking.

I'm aging plenty. What's the oldest one you've had?

2002 is the oldest I remember, but I'm pretty sure I've tasted them all.

Do what you want, but I didn't find interesting things happening with age. It's not going to fall apart over a couple of years, but it isn't made with the intent of longer aging in mind.

As Carson would say, IYMVMYABD?

 

[VLM]

originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
Are you losing all your hair?

Oh... the wine, you mean.

I did cut it all off this morning. No use pretending anymore.

 

[Keith Levenberg]

2003 was still going strong earlier this year. As far as real aging goes, only one way to find out! Gimme a ring in 10-20 if you're curious.

 

[slaton]

I've only drank the 2006 but my impression also was that this wasn't really one for aging.
Much less so than Croix Boisses, Clos Guillot and even Grezeaux are, at least.

Can't wait to try the 2007, though.

 

[Bwood]

originally posted by VLM:
Remember
not for aging, for drinking.

I agree with that. For me, the Baudry FdP is a buy and drink sooner-rather-than-later wine

And, wait, has the vlm gone for the buzz-cut look now?

 

[Steve Guattery]

originally posted by Bwood:

originally posted by VLM:
Remember
not for aging, for drinking.

I agree with that. For me, the Baudry FdP is a buy and drink sooner-rather-than-later wine

I only had a single bottle of the 2007, but I found it youthfully tannic with a slight bitter edge to it. "Sooner-rather-than-later" I can agree with, but not right away, at least for me.

 

[Bwood]

originally posted by Steve Guattery:

originally posted by Bwood:

originally posted by VLM:
Remember
not for aging, for drinking.

I agree with that. For me, the Baudry FdP is a buy and drink sooner-rather-than-later wine

I only had a single bottle of the 2007, but I found it youthfully tannic with a slight bitter edge to it. "Sooner-rather-than-later" I can agree with, but not right away, at least for me.

I might even be projecting a Breton Franc de Pied and Nuits d'Ivresse type experience on to this wine. Wouldn't be the first time.

 

[Steve Guattery]

originally posted by Bwood:
I might even be projecting a Breton Franc de Pied and Nuits d'Ivresse type experience on to this wine. Wouldn't be the first time.

Those I'd consider to be "drink now" wines.

 

[Marc D]

originally posted by Steve Guattery:

originally posted by Bwood:
I might even be projecting a Breton Franc de Pied and Nuits d'Ivresse type experience on to this wine. Wouldn't be the first time.

Those I'd consider to be "drink now" wines.

Have you tried the 2005 version of Nuits d'Ivresse?
It has enough tannic structure to age, although there may be other factors involved that make that particular wine a drink now candidate.

BTW, the 2007 Baudry Grezeaux is delicious and drinking very well at the moment. Pretty good acidity, red fruits typical of the vintage, and the tannin is there but not angry or drying. Ideal Chinon.

 

[JasonA]

originally posted by Steve Guattery:

originally posted by Bwood:
I might even be projecting a Breton Franc de Pied and Nuits d'Ivresse type experience on to this wine. Wouldn't be the first time.

Those I'd consider to be "drink now" wines.

I concur. About a month ago I opened a 2002 Baudry 2002 and subsequently a 2004 Breton the next day. The Baudry was exceptional, the Breton not so much. The '07' Bretons have been drinking fantastically this year. Drink Breton now - don't hold. Don't be afraid to hold the Baudry's. Then again, all these conclusions could be attributed to vintage.

 

[Bwood]

originally posted by Marc D:

Have you tried the 2005 version of Nuits d'Ivresse?
It has enough tannic structure to age, although there may be other factors involved that make that particular wine a drink now candidate.

Like very low sulfur? I've just always (if one can talk about "always" if it only encompasses the last several years) liked the NdIv's wines best on release. I agree about the tannins in the '05 though.

BTW, the 2007 Baudry Grezeaux is delicious and drinking very well at the moment. Pretty good acidity, red fruits typical of the vintage, and the tannin is there but not angry or drying. Ideal Chinon.

Yep. And have been through quite a bit of the basic '07 Chinon (a great buy).

 

[slaton]

originally posted by JasonA:
Drink Breton now - don't hold.

I'm no Breton guru, but I do think think it depends on the wine and the vintage (and sometimes the closure).

I think Picasses, Perrieres and Clos Senechal will reward short to midterm aging in most vintages. Even recent vintages of Beaumont have seemed to develop well for 2-3 years in spite of usually being finished with fake corks (although the one bottle of '07 I've opened has a real cork).

I agree that the better wines in Baudry's lineup will generally be longer term agers.

 

[Marc D]

originally posted by Bwood:

originally posted by Marc D:

Have you tried the 2005 version of Nuits d'Ivresse?
It has enough tannic structure to age, although there may be other factors involved that make that particular wine a drink now candidate.

Like very low sulfur? I've just always (if one can talk about "always" if it only encompasses the last several years) liked the NdIv's wines best on release. I agree about the tannins in the '05 though.

BTW, the 2007 Baudry Grezeaux is delicious and drinking very well at the moment. Pretty good acidity, red fruits typical of the vintage, and the tannin is there but not angry or drying. Ideal Chinon.

Yep. And have been through quite a bit of the basic '07 Chinon (a great buy).

The basic cuvee from Baudry is a steal. I think I read it was from vines that on average are 35 yrs old. All mine are gone, but luckily the 07 Grezeaux just arrived.

I haven't had much luck with drinking Breton early from the last two (2005,2006) vintages. I did buy a few bottles of the Perrieres to cellar from both years.

I've read the 2007 Clos Senechal is out, but haven't been able to find any yet.

 

[JasonA]

originally posted by slaton:

originally posted by JasonA:
Drink Breton now - don't hold.

I'm no Breton guru, but I do think think it depends on the wine and the vintage (and sometimes the closure).

I think Picasses, Perrieres and Clos Senechal will reward short to midterm aging in most vintages. Even recent vintages of Beaumont have seemed to develop well for 2-3 years in spite of usually being finished with fake corks (although the one bottle of '07 I've opened has a real cork).

I agree that the better wines in Baudry's lineup will generally be longer term agers.

I'm was only speaking of the Frac de Pied. I am holding others, though I am starting to worry about the 2002 Nuits d'Ivresse as it is/was bottled without any sulfur.