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Ned Hoey

Ned Hoey
I happy to say that these two untasted purchases worked out.

08 Le P'tit Tanique Coule Bien Puzelat

If I said this was like drinking a really excellent not too sweet strawberry shortcake would it mean anything to you. The vivid red fruit and the creamy element to the aroma kept reminding me of that.
Slightly cloudy, raspberry in color. There was an earth element and a remarkable hint of mature Burgundy. It was distinctive and all I can attribute it to is something possibly yeast related and maybe some oxidative action. Returning to it 48 hours later, the fruits had turned a bit bluish and every thing vivid had faded some but it was still a pleasant drink.

07 Hautes Ctes de Beaune Orchis Mascula Naudin-Ferrand

This is reputed to be at least somewhat naturel. Pale, weightless, delicate, and silky with really pretty pinot aromas. This is really easy to like but could easily divide a tasting group. The producer tech sheet says 80% new barrels which is surprising because it doesn't seem like that at all. Cool that their site provides
such info. My french is not complete enough to glean every detail so I can't figure out if they talk about
wild yeast or not.

tech sheet
 
originally posted by Ned Hoey:
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My french is not complete enough to glean every detail so I can't figure out if they talk about wild yeast or not.
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They don't. But given the rest of what they describe, it'd be hard to see them sneaking lab yeast into the mix.

(And just a small tip: "Deux vins naturels.")
 
originally posted by scottreiner:
originally posted by Ned Hoey:


08 Le P'tit Tanique Puzelat
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love the p'tit. does it still end in 'coule bien'? i didn't think it was imported anymore...
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as "le tel quel" maybe?
 
originally posted by scottreiner:
originally posted by Ned Hoey:


08 Le P'tit Tanique Puzelat
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love the p'tit. does it still end in 'coule bien'? i didn't think it was imported anymore...
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I was told at the time, or was under the impression, that Le P'tit was an anomaly of the 2003 vintage. Has it been made in successive vintages?
 
jason, i know that fifi has recently brought some in...

guilhaume, i'm pretty sure they are separate wines. tel quel was always fruitier and softer to me.
 
originally posted by scottreiner:
jason, i know that fifi has recently brought some in...

guilhaume, i'm pretty sure they are separate wines. tel quel was always fruitier and softer to me.
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same wine, telquel is a primeur, ptit tannique the same wine with a longer elevage, but in the states, they keep the same label, the tel quel one...
 
originally posted by guilhaume:

same wine, telquel is a primeur, ptit tannique the same wine with a longer elevage, but in the states, they keep the same label, the tel quel one...
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if the label is the same, how can one tell the difference?
 
This is the Coule Bien, no indicator of vintage, even in code. The seller said it was 08. A LDM Import back label. It was $12. Very fresh, vivid, and pure, just the kind attributes sought by the natural winemaking process and great deal too. I found it so much more appealing to drink than so many many wines costing
so much much more money.
 
I tried the 2006 Orchis Mascula twice recently. I couldn't believe the oak was so well integrated. But I had another strange experience today with what on paper would have been too much oak that was fine in the glass: a Graggy Range Gimblett Gravel Block 14 Syrah 2006 from NZ that has about half new wood for 17 months and I didn't notice it in the actual tasting. I guess on very rare occasions such a massive amount of oak can actually not be offensive.

Here's what I wrote about the '06 Orchis Mascula on 20.10.2009:

29,90 (ouch!); 12% abv; from the vineyards: "En Bully" 0,75 ha, "Grande Corve" 0,41ha, "En Foigery" 0,20 ha

I tried this in a big tasting early in June and thought it was otherwise a lovely Burgundy except the oak was too much to the fore: it sees a massive 80% in new oak for 15 months! I find such an oak regime strange amongst the "natural" producers, but otherwise this was a wine with no chaptalisation (and relatively low alcohol of course) and little sulfur.

Strangely, tonight I didn't find the oak overpowering at all (am I going over to the dark side?). There was a bit of oak on the background but rather it smelled of Pinosity pure and sexy, sweet and ripe. Fantastic grip on the palate - it is much like the bright and pure (and similarly low alcohol) Montilles I have had: bright red fruit, grippy tannins, refreshing acidity, palate-cleansing. Endless aftertaste with a slight and quite lovable balsamic touch. It has grip but never the austerity of, say, Faiveley - this is sexy Burgundy.
 
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