Any Opinions on Pichot Vouvray?

Bill Lundstrom

Bill Lundstrom

Bill Lundstrom
Anyone have experience with the more expensive moelleux bottling?

I usually pick up a half case or so of the demi-sec each vintage. It's good wine for around $11/ bottle. Nothing special, but good to have on hand.

The 2005 Moelleux is at local retailer. $35/bottle.

Is Pichot considered a notch below Huet and Foreaux?
 
originally posted by Bill Lundstrom:
Any Opinions on Pichot Vouvray?Anyone have experience with the more expensive moelleux bottling?

I usually pick up a half case or so of the demi-sec each vintage. It's good wine for around $11/ bottle. Nothing special, but good to have on hand.

The 2005 Moelleux is at local retailer. $35/bottle.

Is Pichot considered a notch below Huet and Foreaux?
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If you like it, keep going. I don't find the wine to be particularly palatable myself and will pay the extra couple of $ for Pinon.

Huet and Foreau are in a different league.

Look for Francois Chidaine's Vouvray as well. The prices seem to swing wildly for them and there are deals to be had.
 
quote]originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by Bill Lundstrom:
Any Opinions on Pichot Vouvray?Anyone have experience with the more expensive moelleux bottling?

I usually pick up a half case or so of the demi-sec each vintage. It's good wine for around $11/ bottle. Nothing special, but good to have on hand.

The 2005 Moelleux is at local retailer. $35/bottle.

Is Pichot considered a notch below Huet and Foreaux?
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If you like it, keep going. I don't find the wine to be particularly palatable myself and will pay the extra couple of $ for Pinon.

Huet and Foreau are in a different league.

Look for Francois Chidaine's Vouvray as well. The prices seem to swing wildly for them and there are deals to be had.

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thanks.

the other reason i buy a little pichot is i don't have to mail order it. huet, foreau, chidaine i have to order online and have shipped.

a couple years ago a had a 1970 pichot at corduroy in wash dc. i remember it as quite enjoyable.

chidaine's vouvrays are the old poinatowski vineyards i think.
 
originally posted by Bill Lundstrom:
originally posted by VLM:

If you like it, keep going. I don't find the wine to be particularly palatable myself and will pay the extra couple of $ for Pinon.

Huet and Foreau are in a different league.

Look for Francois Chidaine's Vouvray as well. The prices seem to swing wildly for them and there are deals to be had.
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thanks.

the other reason i buy a little pichot is i don't have to mail order it. huet, foreau, chidaine i have to order online and have shipped.

a couple years ago a had a 1970 pichot at corduroy in wash dc. i remember it as quite enjoyable.

chidaine's vouvrays are the old poinatowski vineyards i think.
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Fair enough. Where are you located?

Chidaine makes a few Vouvray, the Clos Baudoin is the old Poinatowski. There is also an Argiles and a Bouchet, both of which are less expensive.
 
originally posted by VLM:

Fair enough. Where are you located?

Chidaine makes a few Vouvray, the Clos Baudoin is the old Poinatowski. There is also an Argiles and a Bouchet, both of which are less expensive.
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Bill's in the land of the PLCB, VLM. I'll also add about Chidaine: having had both the '05 Clos Baudoin and the '05 Les Argiles, I found the Argiles somewhat more attractive, more focused and taut. As I recall from discussions here or on Therapy, the general thought was that it might take him a few years to get the vineyards back into shape.

Mark Lipton
 
A Pichot Moelleux is the one that made Rovani cry, no?

In any case, I've never had one that I thought was worth more than what you're paying for the demi-sec.
 
Fancy Montlouis can sometime be had for the price of cheaper Vouvray.

Ditto other stuff from backwater regions in the Loir and so on.

Vouvray is cheap at the top end for great wine, but for ok stuff less famous names may suit you better.
 
originally posted by SFJoe:
Fancy Montlouis can sometime be had for the price of cheaper Vouvray.

Ditto other stuff from backwater regions in the Loir and so on.

Vouvray is cheap at the top end for great wine, but for ok stuff less famous names may suit you better.
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As my second roommate at Columbia opined: a good shit is better than a bad fuck. There's an ocean of crap made in Vouvray last time I checked it out and the only names I really pay attention to there are Huet, Foreau, Pinon and, now, Chidaine. So, yes, Montlouis and other regions pay better dividends to the adventurous.

Mark Lipton
 
i am in delaware. buy lots from chambers street and in maryland.

was turned on to chidaine when it was imported by sussex to moore brothers shop. then they (sussex) tried to help the deal where chidaine was going to buy poinatowski's vineyards (they were importing him also) and things got ugly and chidaine told sussex to f off. ever since, i have to get it shipped from chambers.
 
i've always enjoyed pichot, and with good vintages they can be very good--typically lots of beeswax and lanolin/wooliness. the 1996 was quite something. for their regular bottling there's no sweetness designation, but demi-sec is usually the style. on vintages where ripeness was problematic, they can come across more as a sec.

yes, they will never be mistaken for huet, et. al., but for the price i'm always interested, and they age well.
 
I just threw up in my mouth a little bit. As I usually do when I think about Pichot. Like listening to Lady Gaga. Ewwww!

(A Carson post)
 
Granted, I've had only two Vouvrays in my life: 2007 Pichot Demi-Sec and 2006 Pinon Cuvee Tradition. While I thought the Pichot was fine, the Pinon was significantly better.

Maybe I'm wrong, but it seemed to me that the Pichot was definitely more honeyed and heavier than the Pinon and lacked the Pinon's saline minerality. It also didn't react as well to air as the Pinon did.

Of course, this might be due to vintage variation, even though, from what I hear, 2007 was generally considered a better vintage in Vouvray than 2006.
 
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