Austrians at Ssam Bar

SFJoe

Joe Dougherty
Dan Tisch called, and we came. Hes been on an Austrian rampage recently, as far as I can tell, and he summoned a few of the more dedicated NYC fans of Austrian wine for an early Sunday dinner at Momofuku Ssam bar. Bob D. and Renee were already there when I arrived, 10 minutes early, and it was a good thing since we had various table trouble. The staff were very kind and solicitous, and we wound up at the L-shaped table right in front of the door, where everyone who came in was just a little weirded out by all the bottles on our table.

I wont describe the foodwe ordered off the menu, mostly fish, and it was uniformly tasty. But we had some pretty damn good wines and learned a thing or two, or at least I did.

The early arrivers had a quick huddle about wine order and so on, and we agreed: Riesling first, GV second, and in this case I acceded to an oldest-to-youngest tasting, not my typical preference. But some of these wines were so old that there was considerable risk theyd be shot, so we thought wed get them out of the way and move onto firmer ground for dinner.

For a first wine, Kirk brought 1996 Nikolaihof Steiner Hund Riesling Kabinett

We thought wed start with a lighter wine from a notoriously lean vintage. Ive never seen another vintage of Steiner Hund with a Kabinett designation, and actually, Id never seen this one before either. 1996 was cool, and I believe there was also rain at the harvest, so the wines tend to be lean and somewhat acidic. Some very good producers deacidified that year. This wine had a fabulous, clean, stony Riesling nose. It was indeed lean on the palate, but holding well, and quite a nice drop. I wouldnt age any remaining bottles expecting improvement, but I was pleasantly surprised. You know, even Hirtzberger Singerriedel is on the downslope in 96 IMO, so this was doing very well indeed.

We then opened my one bottle of 1961 Hirtzberger Riesling Hochrain Spaetlese.

Sourced from Austria a few years ago, the bottle had a couple of inches of ullage. The cork was actually pretty grossit had contracted a bit, and mold had grown between the cork and the glass part way down. I used up a couple of napkins cleaning the neck of the bottle, and decanted the wine, but the moldy flavors were into the wine and there was no getting them out. It wasnt exactly like being corked, but it was definitely in that direction. Which was too bad, because under the funk there was a very pretty wine, and one that wasnt nearly as OTH as most of us had feared. Im easily ready to give Austrian Riesling 25 years, but 50 seems on the high side. This was beautiful wine, golden but not brown, complex and pretty except for the faade of mold. So Riesling may have more room to run than you might expect. The wine did fade and darken with air, so I wouldnt go nuts keeping such things, but dont imagine that they cant be good.

The next wine was of uncertain vintage, thought to be 1979 Rudi Pichler Riesling Spaetlese Somethingorotherer. No vineyard designation, and a label with Gruner Veltliner crossed out and riesling [edited to correct, thanks Kirk] hand-written in across the top. Quite delicious, fresh, fabulous, yum. Great yellow fruit aromatics, a light impression, Kirk thought it perhaps the prettiest wine of the night.

The 1994 FX Pichler Durnsteiner Kellerberg Riesling Smaragd should have all its description in bold type, because this was a bold wine in true FXP style. The one wine of the night that brought ethanol into a description for me, it nonetheless showed remarkable balance and poise in a powerful wine. Its probably not something Id buy in mass quantities today, but I dont mind still having a few.

A vintage head fake brought up 1993 Knoll Pfaffenberg Riesling Spaetlese. This one didnt work for me. I said grapefruit, my companion said, grapefruit air freshener. Something happened here, and I for one dont know what.

We then had a mini vertical of Hirtzberger Singerriedel Riesling Smaragds.

The 1992 rocked my world, and was my favorite of the three. I like 1992 a lot in the Wachau, Ive had a number of wines with great structure and balance, and this was an exemplar. Just a little spritz, a fabulous nose, not too big, not too much, but lovely structure and balance and it kept unfolding in the glass until it was gone.

The 1995 had less botrytis than other 95s, but the noble rot was still evident on the nose. I find a number of recent 95s to be aging poorly, the botrytis isnt showing so well with time. Ive mostly drunk mine up. But this was a really fine bottle, considerably younger than I expected, its probably got 5 good years in it based on this showing.

The 1997 is amazingly intense stuff. Three bottles of wine compressed into one. Great balance, even ripeness, aromatic complexity without being at all old or tired. To my taste, this is just a little fat and unstructured in the finish, but I was in the minority on that complaint. Clearly great wine with a long future.

We had a Champagne interlude thanks to Jonathan, 2003 Varnier-Fanniere Grand Vintage. I am no judge of Champagne, but this was ripe, open, exotic, a little soft. Powerful, but not for the ages. An interesting artifact from the extreme 2003 vintage.

A further interlude included 1994 Zull Schrattenthaler Aussere Bergen Roter Veltliner, which totally perplexed me. RV to me is often big and ripe and soft. This was 11% even in a ripe vintage like 94. What happened here? No real idea.

Interlude concluded, we moved on to GV. Rob brought a remarkable bottle, 1947 Freie Weingartner Durnsteiner Kellerberg GV. Think back to 1947 in Austria. The Third Man. Rationing. Amazing that they could find bottles and corks. Tough times. This bottle had 4 or more inches of ullage, and a funky old cork. The funky old cork has let this wine down, sadly. It has a bit of rs, considerable oxidation, it's pretty brown, has some fruit, some apparent botrytis, but for me it was hard to tell what was behind this. Too bad about the cork on this. If some of the bottles had better corks you could imagine that this could still be good wine.

Though I praise my own contribution, I was extremely pleased by the showing of 1971 Hirtzberger Honivogl GV Spaetlese. Spectacular. Dang, this is great say my notes. Complex floral aromatics, open beautiful, some va, some botrytis perhaps, but I loved it. I dont think I could have called it blind as GV, or guessed another grape, except that there was a textural and flavor note on the finish that might have given this away to a more experienced blind taster. Ive previously opened another bottle of this that was considerably inferior to the bottle last night.

The 1993 Knoll Loibenberg GV Auslese surprised me with its fairly high residual sugar. Beautiful yellow fruits, a very long finish, but I was not adapting as fast this late in the evening, and the rs threw me as far as notes and analysis went.

A good counterpoint to the 1995 Singerriedel, we had the 1995 Hirtzberger GV Honivogl. A great nose, not OTT botrytis, vigorous, long, this wine is in great shape and again confounds my expectations of 1995.

I dont think we had a perfect bottle of 1986 Knoll GV Loibenberg Honifogl. I couldnt smell TCA, but the wine was just a little muted and clipped in the nose in a way that I would not have expected from this wine. Nice acid, good body, I feel strongly that another bottle would be better.

Our flexibility was again challenged by a 1988 FX Pichler Neuberger Somethingorotherer. [edited to correct vintage] Crazily aromatic, not old or OTH, interesting not-too-acidic structure, but a little lost among the big guns here.

An old friend showed very well. The 1991 Nikolaihof GV Vinothek was the most open and friendly Id ever seen it. It was in the decanter for more than an hour, in and out of the ice bucket, but it was just great. Finally, the wine is showing aromatic complexity along with its great freshness and minerality. Ill have to try one of my bottles soon to see whether this was a fluke.

All in all, a memorable night with some great wines. I had expected a far higher casualty rate, particularly with older Riesling, but with the possible exception of the 86 Knoll and the special case of the 61 Hochrain, we were very lucky. A happy and satisfied crew spilled out into the warm evening on 2nd Avenue, and I for one had a lovely walk home. Not too many nights in November that are shorts weather in NYC.
 
Damn fine writeup. Who knew we had our own Maupassant going on in the form of SFJoe? I felt the pain of that cork on the 1961 Hirtzberger.

Chapeau.

Oh, also, some of the wines sound good.
 
That '94 FXP DK Riesling Smaragd is great - I had my last bottle with Daniel Vollenweider sitting in his cellar reminiscing about the '01 harvest.

Had an '06 Knoll from the same vineyard tonight - just too rich at the moment. And a Dr. Loosen from '94 - UW Auslese, drinking well now although I suspect my bottles are a bit more advanced than they should be.
 
originally posted by SFJoe:

We then had a mini vertical of Hirtzberger Singerriedel Riesling Smaragds.



The 1992 rocked my world, and was my favorite of the three. I like 1992 a lot in the Wachau, Ive had a number of wines with great structure and balance, and this was an exemplar. Just a little spritz, a fabulous nose, not too big, not too much, but lovely structure and balance and it kept unfolding in the glass until it was gone.

Are you sure that it wasn't an archetype instead? Thanks for the detailed writeup. What a fascinating lineup of wines.

Mark Lipton
 
Joe, superb notes, you captured the evening very well. For me it was a truly extraordinary and unique wine night. We drank great wines that are impossible to find and were only available because those of us who attended are in the small minority of people who appreciate them enough to either age them or to seek them out.

As for the wines the 92 Singerriedel, 94 Kellerberg and 1971 Hirtzberger Honivogl were all awesome. Both the 47 and 61 clearly suggested they were capable of extended aging if the corks had not failed.

I liked the 1988 Neuberger a lot more than everyone else but that happens every time I bring one to a tasting.

Lastly Momo Ssam did a great job of accommodating a group of seven people with 18+ open bottles, several decanters, funnels and other old wine paraphernalia and a number of bags filled with even more wine who occupied a prime table for an entire evening.
 
Thank you Dan and all. what a night. for an Austrian wine lover, was a borderline epic evening with just so many bizarre rarities making an appearance. I have to say, I was shocked by how well most of the wines were showing and thank you to everyone for the generosity in breaking out the austro-geeks.

Joe - thanks for the great notes. for what they are worth, here are my comments which don't really say anything new, except for the 93 Knoll Riesling Pfaffenberg Spatlese, which I quite liked.

1996 Nikolaihof Steiner Hund Kab
I loved the nose here - incredibly pure and fresh - apricot and peach compote, a touch honeyed but so clean and fresh. with air gained in the "fresh" department, with lemon peel and mineral. On the palate it was, as to be expected and as Joe noted, lean with a lot of energy and sort of raucous charm. again, with time it actually did fill out a bit, gaining in palate weight and taking on an oily edging, yet still, the acidity felt a bit raw, the sides of the tongue getting stung pretty hard to the point I felt like it was maybe veering off balance. A hell of a wine to smell. just smell it?

1979(?) Rudolph Pichler Riesling Spat
Nothing to add here really. whatever the hell it was it was lovely.

1994 FXP Riesling Kellerberg Smaragd
My second time with the bottle in the past few months and it was, as you'd expect, dripping with that oily, sexy, glossy fruit. Felt a bit richer than the last one I had, not as much poise and with lots of vanillin notes that I sort of don't like, but then again this was probably more due to its order in the progression, from two lean and fresh wines... made it feel like a bruiser. Still, FXP does do that sexy-kinky-powerful thing like few others and the wines have so much oozing concentration and glide. I probably prefer the 1993, but if I had any of this in my cellar, I would be happy. Kellerberg, in any event, is a hell of a site. I would like Alzinger to make a Kellerberg.

1993 Knoll Riesling Pfaffenberg Spatlese
I have to say I liked this wine a lot. I don't really get Knoll - I have a very hard time wrapping my head around these wines. They always feel totally fragmented and going in all directions simultaneously with crazy disparate notes. but I like it. sort of like the atonal Schoenberg, translated through Riesling. I got a crazy dark-fruited nose, raspberry, blackberry, cassis... even quince with this very aromatic herbal edging... something like fennel but not fennel. very deep with a dark, dark stoniness. I thought the nose was...not beautiful...but impressive and beguiling and mysterious. scary but in a good way. I liked it a lot. the palate, in comparison to the depth of the nose, was a bit disappointing, short and kind of brash, vinous yet not terribly elegant. still, for the nose I'm happy to give it 43.4 points alone.

1992 Hirtzberger Riesling Singerriedel Smaragd
I agree it was the Singerriedel of the mini-vertical - for me it was also a HUGE lesson in how well Hirtzberger ages. the deep, massive palates somehow lighten up with age but lose very little of the depth or complexity. THIS is why you age wine. a wow austro-experience for me. astoundingly light and agile, downright slinky. very compact, super-dense, yet again, not at all heavy. such glide and length. a lovely sort of spring nose of fennel and spring greens/flowers, spring water, peach, lemon...I can't think of any other adjectives that would include the word "spring" so I'll stay here for now. so totally integrated with great balance. so so good. I'd say, also, that it felt to me if anything, still on the upswing... with many, many good years ahead.

1995 Hirtzberger Riesling Singerriedel Smaragd
This was sort of weird and didn't show well next to the 92 and 97. so it goes.

1997 Hirtzberger Riesling Singerriedel Smaragd
Damn exotic as compared to the other two - wild, saturating palate, with an amazing texture - pillow-y and blousy, yet not totally out of control. it didn't quite have the focus and astounding balance of the 92, but this is 97: marmalade, tangerine, spice (paprika?) all over the nose and palate - way present and staining fruit... a nice, subtle, pulverized minerality and a dusting of pepper on the finish. Felt a bit hot and again, its billowy energy comes at the expense of focus, but still - a fine wine.

I have to go work now - I have two more pages of notes but I'm tired. if anyone cares, let me know and I'll try and post the rest of my notes tonight / tomorrow.
 
Great notes Joe and Stephen! Thank you everyone for digging deep and sharing such wonderful wines....it was an incredibly exhilirating evening to drink these wines and share the joy with fellow austrian fanatics.

Robert, FWIW I loved the neuberger!

My faves were the 92 singer, 94 fxp kellerberg, 71 hitzberger honivogl and quite surprisingly the 95 hirtzberger honivogl. I really loved that wine....i dont know if it was the fact hat i refused to spit and was giddy by then....but i really loved that wine...the nose was to die for. I dont know what happened to me when the 97 singer came around...i must have been obsessing over getting more pork buns because i have absolutely no memory of even drinking it....very sad now thinking of that fact...also he 91 nikolaihof was a great showing of that wine. Heck, nearly all of the wines were so good....we really did get lucky with the hit ratio.

My only regret is that i wish we had started at noon instead of 5:30pm....i just never feel that i have enuf time to meditate on the wines....i always feel afterward that i had what felt like fleeting moments with the wines and im craving more time with them. For the next one lets do a breakfast so that we have plenty of time to drag things out over the day : )

Keith/Asher - i will make a real effort to post here more often....ive literally go a drawer fully of written notes....in fact, so many that its become quite daunting the prospect of typing them up....hence i have not been posting much....i will get my lazy ass moving before the year is out and type them and post them....its my "current year resolution". Now...There....having set that lofty goal, ill be amazed if i actually achieve it. But ive got the goal...and....er...well.....that conts for something.....somewhere....no?

Thanks again to everyone for bringing the LUMBER!
 
originally posted by S Bitterolf:

1992 Hirtzberger Riesling Singerriedel Smaragd
I agree it was the Singerriedel of the mini-vertical - for me it was also a HUGE lesson in how well Hirtzberger ages.
I wonder whether it might be a lesson in how wines made with a bit more restraint in that early '90s era, or wines from a slightly lighter great vintage, or some other concatenation of factors might do better than riper late '90s wines? Hard to isolate the variables, but I lean a bit in that direction.

Not that I didn't go out and buy 2005 Singerriedel in mags, so I'm a hypocrite, but there you go.
 
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