Sharon Bowman
Sharon Bowman
Yes. Yes. And ten times yes.
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09 Beaujolais Nouveau
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Yes. Yes. And ten times yes.
Sharon Bowman
Sharon Bowman
I knew I would get the wet noodle.
Claude Kolm
Claude Kolm
Fuck the early results, as VLM would say. That said, there was a lot of talk in the Cte d'Or the past few weeks about how great 2009 Beaujolais would be.originally posted by The Wine Mule:
Would anyone care to admit that 2009, on early results, is an excellent vintage?
originally posted by Claude Kolm: That said, there was a lot of talk in the Cte d'Or the past few weeks about how great 2009 Beaujolais would be.
Aha, interesting to hear that. Do people often concern themselves with their lower-status nearby region?
Brun's Beaujolais Nouveau is a good early indicator of the quality and stylistic characteristics of the non-nouveau Beaujolais wines, just as the early returns on the best Cru Beaujolais give you some idea about vintage characteristics, generally speaking, in Burgundy.
Granted we are speaking in very general terms since tasting a bottle of Beaujolais Nouveau won't tell you if there was a problem with hail in Volnay or whether Brad Kane is ultimately going to give the vintage a "97."
Granted we are speaking in very general terms since tasting a bottle of Beaujolais Nouveau won't tell you if there was a problem with hail in Volnay or whether Brad Kane is ultimately going to give the vintage a "97."
Jonathan Loesberg
Jonathan Loesberg
Well, I've tasted a couple of 09 CdP's during the first week in November. If the 07 was the best vintage of any viticultural region every in the history of humanity (or something like that), then 09 must be the apocalypse. The wines I tasted were, at any rate, more than promising.
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
If the 07 was the best vintage of any viticultural region every in the history of humanity (or something like that),
You may be shocked to hear that a knowledgeable friend of mine who's been tasting in the region this month doesn't see it quite that way.
originally posted by SFJoe:
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
If the 07 was the best vintage of any viticultural region every in the history of humanity (or something like that),
You may be shocked to hear that a knowledgeable friend of mine who's been tasting in the region this month doesn't see it quite that way.
I'm finding it hard to read between your lines here (maybe I just need stronger reading glasses?). The friend tasting somewhere now doesn't see 2007 or 2009 as that great?
originally posted by Bwood:
originally posted by SFJoe:
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
If the 07 was the best vintage of any viticultural region every in the history of humanity (or something like that),
You may be shocked to hear that a knowledgeable friend of mine who's been tasting in the region this month doesn't see it quite that way.
I'm finding it hard to read between your lines here (maybe I just need stronger reading glasses?). The friend tasting somewhere now doesn't see 2007 or 2009 as that great?
Since Joe quoted only the former statement, my money is on it.
Mark Lipton
Jonathan Loesberg
Jonathan Loesberg
originally posted by SFJoe:
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
If the 07 was the best vintage of any viticultural region every in the history of humanity (or something like that),
You may be shocked to hear that a knowledgeable friend of mine who's been tasting in the region this month doesn't see it quite that way.
If we're talking about the 07, I'm not shocked. But I will probably disagree. I think there's danger of early evolution of some wines (as has happened with some 98s)because again, it's a hot, low acid vintage. But the people who know how to deal with this, will deal with this and the wines will do fine.
If your friend just doesn't like the style, I even understand. As I said elsewhere, I think 07 leaves a vintage stamp on wines that makes it harder for what one likes about individual producers to show through. I could well see liking some of the 06s and 04s more for producing wines with more individual character showing through. Still, I have found that the producers I like have worked with the vintage to make their wines from it, and wines that I expect to be liking ten years from now. We true CdP sluts tolerate a fair amount of high alcohol and ripe fruits and even make distinctions between ripe and jammy where others would see it as a distinction between a menshavik and a bolshevik.
I don't think it's the best wine made in human history, but I do think it's another strong vintage, nothing like the freakshow of 03 (whose wines I am drinking up young but enjoying when I do) or what I fear from the 05.
The Wine Mule
Dave Erickson
originally posted by SFJoe:
Where's the doghead when you need him?
We're declaring vintages of the century on the basis of Beaujolais Nouveau.
Oh, mores.
I said no such thing! (Twirls moustachios, reaches for his pearl-handled dirk...)
Joel Stewart
Joel Stewart
just out of curiosity, anyone know what the lapierre b.n. sells for in general in the US?
Claude Kolm
Claude Kolm
Only a select few. But there have been recent purchases in the Beaujolais by some high-profile Burgundy producers -- Jadot, Bouchard P&F, and Jacques Prieur, to mention just three; and Drouhin, IMO, always does an excellent job with their Beaujolais. OTOH, a Bouchard An Beaujolais Nouveau last Thursday night was spectacularly unmoving.originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by Claude Kolm: That said, there was a lot of talk in the Cte d'Or the past few weeks about how great 2009 Beaujolais would be.
Aha, interesting to hear that. Do people often concern themselves with their lower-status nearby region?
Jonathan Loesberg
Jonathan Loesberg
originally posted by SFJoe:
I don't drink enough Chateauneuf to have an opinion at all.
But my friend tastes a lot and says that he finds he prefers 2005 to 2007 at many houses.
He's a broader minded guy than I am in general.
I hope he's right about the 05s. It's not a preference I share, also "at many houses." But maybe we're talking about different houses.
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
If we're talking about the 07, I'm not shocked. But I will probably disagree. I think there's danger of early evolution of some wines (as has happened with some 98s)because again, it's a hot, low acid vintage. But the people who know how to deal with this, will deal with this and the wines will do fine.
??? I had thought that the '07 vintage was characterized by a long, cool growing season. Is this not so, Prof?
Mark Lipton
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
originally posted by SFJoe:
I don't drink enough Chateauneuf to have an opinion at all.
But my friend tastes a lot and says that he finds he prefers 2005 to 2007 at many houses.
He's a broader minded guy than I am in general.
I hope he's right about the 05s. It's not a preference I share, also "at many houses." But maybe we're talking about different houses.
I'm a little confused. Are we talking about chateauneuf-du-papes or cote du py?