Extraneous wines tasted...

Peter Creasey

Peter Creasey

Peter Creasey
Or most of them, anyway! Only mental notes (of nebulous value)!

CHAMPAGNE
Oudinot, NV
ITALIAN
Gavi Di Gavi Rovereto Chiarlo, 97
AUSTRALIAN
Lindemans Limestone Ridge, Coonawarra Shiraz Cab, 85
Shiraz, Majella, 00
TEXAS
Pheasant Ridge, Pinot Noir, 00
Pheasant Ridge, Pinot Noir, 99
CALIFORNIA
Acacia Beckstoffer, Pinot Noir, 97
Carmenet Vin de Garde, 91
Cline, Contra Costa,Live Oak, Zinfandel, 97
El Molino Pinot Noir, 97
Flora Springs Sangiovese, Napa, 93
Kongsgaard, Viognier Roussanne, 05
Lyeth Meritage, 93
Lytton Springs, Zinfandel, Sonoma County, 87
Pine Ridge, Napa, Rutherford Cuvee Cab, 91
Stewart Cellars, Pinot Noir, 00
BORDEAUX
Chateau Canon, 74
Chateau Batailley, 70
Chateau Troplong Mondot, 71
RHONE
Dom. du Galet des Papes, Chateauneuf du Pape, 88
Vieux Telegraphe, Chateauneuf du Pape, 85
Coudoulet de Beaucastel, 94
Santa Duc, Gigondas, 90
Guigal, Hermitage, Ex-Voto Blanc, 01
BURGUNDY
Lecheneaut, Morey-Saint-Denis, 99
MYSTERY
Girardin Corton Bressandes, 99 vs. Adrian Fog Pinot Noir, 99
Chateau Figeac, 83 vs. Heitz Martha's Vineyard, 97



. . . . . Pete
 
The Bordeaux wines drew mixed opinions. The folks who care less about old wines were not enamored with them.

Some of us who tend to appreciate old wines more kindly found them to be of interest. Definitely a bit tired, but still with some fruit and life...and charm.

I brought home the leftover Ch Batailley and refrigerated it. I'll fool around with it tonight and if it's still viable have it with meat loaf.

. . . . . Pete
 
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons: Shoot. My ESP connection is down.
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Ian, I thought about drafting notes, but it is hard to justify publishing individual notes on so many wines based just on mental recall. Definitely not an ideal judging environment.

Are there particular ones that you might wonder about?

. . . . . . Pete
 
originally posted by Steve Edmunds: Texas Pinot Noirthat's mental as anything!
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Steve, Not sure what you're saying here!

Actually, the Pheasant Ridge Pinot Noirs have often been superb wines. Pheasant Ridge is now owned by a friend of mine. Before, it was owned by Bobby Cox a fairly esteemed wine grower.

Bobby made a Pheasant Ridge Pinot Noir 1989, for example, that was a favorite of mine. He bottled it totally unfiltered and unfined so that it had a lot sediment, including twigs, leaves, etc. As a result, San Antonio rejected their allocation and Houston was fortunate to gain this allocation. I had several cases of it.

I frequently served it double blind to knowledgeable wine folks (including some bona fide experts). It was interesting to observe them "peg" it as a Vosne Romanee or something similar. It was that good.

George Buehler was a wine expert, including with Burgundies, who used to be on Prodigy. He heard about this wine and asked me to send him some. He was well impressed with it also.

The area near Amarillo where Pheasant Ridge is located apparently is a good location for Pinot Noir. Unfortunately, it is very difficult to manage, especially with the fairly frequent storms (that often include hail).

Having said all of the foregoing, Pheasant Ridge mainly produces Cabernet Sauvignon, Chardonnay, Merlot, and (an excellent) Chenin Blanc.

Surely more than you (or anyone) wanted to know!

. . . . . Pete
 
originally posted by MLipton: 12 year old Gavi? How was it?
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Mark, It was still quite enjoyable.

I don't know a whole lot about Italian white wines but this Gavi was a fun wine on this occasion. Still with good stuffing, resilient fruits (citrus?), round profile, some elegance/richness/freshness, quite clean. Being surprised, I asked other people what they thought of it and their sentiments were similar to mine.

. . . . . Pete
 
originally posted by Peter Creasey:
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons: Shoot. My ESP connection is down.
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Ian, I thought about drafting notes, but it is hard to justify publishing individual notes on so many wines based just on mental recall. Definitely not an ideal judging environment.

Are there particular ones that you might wonder about?

. . . . . . Pete
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I was just kidding around, Peter. I first thought the numbers were vintages (since Oudinet, for example, has 'NV' instead of a number), and just posting a list of wines and vintages struck me as unusually succinct, even for this venue (unless you're Joe Dressner). But I guess they are really scores.
 
originally posted by Peter Creasey:
I thought about drafting notes, but it is hard to justify publishing individual notes on so many wines based just on mental recall.
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So, the point of posting the list was...?

I'd thought of sitting in the back of the room at Taillevent tonight and scribbling down the bottles people ordered in order to post them on Wine Disorder, but my pen ran out of ink.
 
originally posted by Sharon Bowman: So, the point of posting the list was...?
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Sharon, Time and documentation constraints are in play.

Intent is to respond according to the level of interest and about whichever particular wines might be of interest, if any!?! (I thought there might be no interest in which case drafting notes would be fruitless.)

Obviously, some of these wines are less than noteworthy. Others apparently are of some interest.

. . . . . Pete
 
originally posted by SFJoe: the Bordeaux.
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Joe, We had the following 3 wines tonight with meat loaf, mashed potatoes, and green peas (sorry, no photos!!) after they (the wines) were refrigerated for 48 hours...

Ch Batailley '70
Stewart Cellars Pinot Noir '00
Santa Duc Gigondas '90

All were still kicking!

The Ch Batailley '70, amazingly, was just lovely in a soft way. JoAnne and I really liked it.

The Stewart Cellars Pinot Noir '00 was still intriguingly nuanced with good life as expected with this stalwart bottling.

The Santa Duc Gigondas '90 was still showing the typical Rhone vibrancy and vitality. It's hard to kill a good Rhone!!

. . . . . Pete
 
originally posted by Peter Creasey:
. . . I thought about drafting notes, but it is hard to justify publishing individual notes on so many wines based just on mental recall.
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Now, you tell me. Shit!

BTW, notes on demand is a great concept - maybe we could post our notes eleswhere on the net and then provide hyperlinks so that the original poster need never revisit and readers can access only those they care about.

But I still think notes based on mental recall, no matter how vague, should be encouraged, even applauded. 90% of the time, they're just as valid as 20% of those that I know would post.

Best, Jim
 
originally posted by Florida Jim: I still think notes based on mental recall, no matter how vague, should be encouraged, even applauded.
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Jim, I fully agree. Your postings have always been "applauded" by me here and elsewhere.

The case with this particular tasting report was a confluence of factors as mentioned upthread.

. . . . . Pete
 
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