Levi Dalton
Levi Dalton
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I just don't get Aligot
- Thread starter MLipton
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Christian Miller (CMM)
Christian Miller
Exactly. One of the good things about wine is that it can be so much fun to be proven incorrect in your assumptions.originally posted by kirk wallace:
originally posted by Levi Dalton:
originally posted by kirk wallace:
originally posted by Claude Kolm:
I'm surprised that you don't know Valentini's.originally posted by Christian Miller (CMM):
I've even heard it's true of Trebbiano, although I'm still waiting for proof in the glass.
and Emidio Pepe. And Pepe's seem to drink better when young; don't know if they age as well as Valentini's, but i wouldn't be surprised. Pepe's red certainly does.
I think that a measure of approachability in youth would vary with the sample set choosen for each of those two producers.
i look forward to future exploration and experimentation.
originally posted by slaton:
In the past I've liked De Moor's aligote 'Planatation 1902', made from very old vines, although it's been quite variable for me from bottle to bottle. And I like de Villaine's Bouzeron in most vintages. I found Mikulski's aligote to be a bit insipid a few weeks ago but I just had a quick taste.
You should give Mikulski's aligot another chance. He's doing interesting things with this grape, including letting it partly dry on the vine before harvesting.
Jay Miller
Jay Miller
originally posted by MLipton:
I just don't get AligotI'm sure that it underscores some great failing on my part and will likely result in my forced rehabilitation in a Gulag somewhere, but...
Tonight we opened a bottle of the DeMoor MMVIII A Ligato-o Tirage de Printemps to accompany a light dinner of spinach-cheese phyllo "bags" and bread with cheese. The wine was crisp, tart, slightly herbal and that's about it. Jean gave up on it after one glass, while I played with temperature and food pairing to see if I could coax more out of it. Alas, I couldn't. Now, if this were my first encounter with Aligot I wouldn't make much of it, but we've now had 3 that I can recall, including de Villaine's 2004 Bouzeron. In all cases, I've been unmoved by the wine, finding it rather charmless and devoid of interest. It isn't simply a matter of acidity, as I gladly quaff wines more acidic than these and even enjoy them.
So, is it some genetic problem that both Jean and I possess? Have we done something wrong with these wines? Or is this a known problem for some?
Mark Lipton
Well I generally agree with you but you're citing one of my very few exceptions. This year's Tirage de Printemps wasn't as good as some previous years but I still enjoyed it a fair amount. Did you decant? I had it in the decanter for about an hour IIRC.
originally posted by Jay Miller:
Well I generally agree with you but you're citing one of my very few exceptions. This year's Tirage de Printemps wasn't as good as some previous years but I still enjoyed it a fair amount. Did you decant? I had it in the decanter for about an hour IIRC.
No, Jay. We didn't decant. Since I've got the remainder in the fridge, I'll give it some air to see if that helps.
Thanks!
Mark Lipton
Joel Stewart
Joel Stewart
originally posted by Lou A.:
originally posted by slaton:
In the past I've liked De Moor's aligote 'Planatation 1902', made from very old vines, although it's been quite variable for me from bottle to bottle. And I like de Villaine's Bouzeron in most vintages. I found Mikulski's aligote to be a bit insipid a few weeks ago but I just had a quick taste.
You should give Mikulski's aligot another chance. He's doing interesting things with this grape, including letting it partly dry on the vine before harvesting.
My first aligote (and my first Mikulski as well)...this is starting off high and dry and muscadet-like in the upper registers, but there's a depth lurking underneath that's starting to swell. Not overly acidic. It's also faintly reminding me of the De Moor Chablis we had the other night...ie there's a deeper well of a core here, ringed with appropriate and pleasant levels of acidity etc. I like what I see so far.
Levi Dalton
Levi Dalton
originally posted by Tom Blach:
The Ponsot can be glorious. I have drunk a considerable amount of the 99 with absolute awe. Unfortunately I have had bottles of 00, 01 and 02 all of which have been prematurely oxidised.
I have also encountered that problem with that producer in those vintages, but this was awhile ago.
Ignacio Villalgordo
Ignacio Villalgordo
No one has mentioned Coche's Aligot. Very good, speially in "warm" vintages (2002, 2005)
Daniel Piechota
Daniel Piechota
Have liked the Mikulski. ( also my first Aligote) Would agree with Joel's notes. Only other one that I have had was a disappointment. De Moor most recent san soufre offering. ( has a phonetic spelling of Aligote on the label). Found it to be an acid bomb. Almost undrinkable. Might have been too young, but did not get the sense that the wine would go anywhere with time.
Joel Stewart
Joel Stewart
Yep...coming back to this bottle several hrs later, it's fucked. Does not pair with toast, scrambled eggs or green habanero sauce at all. Well, actually it does. No really. It does. Don't know about other aligotes, but this Mikulski is a decent to great little white.