some Pacalet's 06

It is complicated.

Not really.

Charmes-Chambertin is physically within the Gevrey-Chambertin appellation and it can be declassified to appellation Gevrey-Chambertin 1er Cru or Gevrey Chambertin (or Bourgogne or vdt)

Right, but, uh... why not say Charmes-Chambertin?

It's as though I said, "I have a rodent as a pet."

Do I have a mouse? A rat? A hamster?
 
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
It is complicated.

Not really.

Charmes-Chambertin is physically within the Gevrey-Chambertin appellation and it can be declassified to appellation Gevrey-Chambertin 1er Cru or Gevrey Chambertin (or Bourgogne or vdt)

Right, but, uh... why not say Charmes-Chambertin?

It's as though I said, "I have a rodent as a pet."

Do I have a mouse? A rat? A hamster?
OH LA LA LA!!!!! next time i will put my glasses on before posting.
The fact is you focus on my mistake but don t answer the question!!!!!
anybody around who tried these wines recently??????
 
Yes. They're good.

But I would have thought you meant the Gevrey-Chambertin VV 2006 -- delicious -- rather than the Charmes-Chambertin 2006 -- godly.

So there.
 
originally posted by guilhaume:
originally posted by lucertoran:
originally posted by guilhaume:
originally posted by lucertoran:
some Pacalet's 06G.Ch 1er Cru . austere as G.Ch( with more emphasis on structure than on aromatics) and a bit weak on the verge of oxydation(so young though!!!).
Ch.Mu Grand Cru. Texture & fruit: brilliant.Nice polished tannins.Ch.Mu being my favorite expression of PN .
What do you think camarades disorderist????

AAMOF, IDK WAYTA,IDU
GTRDAFQDSLNTLJ!!!!!!

sounds french, am i being insulted?
MNJRAT..... Gerardtasriendautreafoutrequedesquatterlenettoutelajournee.
TDB!!!!!
 
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:

It's as though I said, "I have a rodent as a pet."
Not even. Because if you have a mouse, it is accurate to describe it as a rodent. If you have a Charmes-Chambertin, technically, it is not correct to describe it as a Gevrey-Chambertin unless it has been declassified, in which case it no longer is a Charmes-Chambertin (but you can use the lieux-dits "Charmes" or "Mazoyres", as the case may be, on the same label with Gevrey-Chambertin for the declassified wine).

See, those of us who aren't religious had to have something to do to fill in for that lack of ridiculous specificity.
 
originally posted by Cory Cartwright:
pacalet drinks so wonderfully young. i wish i had some right now.

yeah, how about older? 01 TN (sorry) anyone?
 
originally posted by Claude Kolm:
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:

It's as though I said, "I have a rodent as a pet."
Not even. Because if you have a mouse, it is accurate to describe it as a rodent. If you have a Charmes-Chambertin, technically, it is not correct to describe it as a Gevrey-Chambertin unless it has been declassified, in which case it no longer is a Charmes-Chambertin (but you can use the lieux-dit "Charmes" or "Mazoyres", as the case may be, on the same label with Gevrey-Chambertin for the declassified wine).

See, those of us who aren't religious had to have something to do to fill in for that lack of ridiculous specificity.
You should file a complaint form and send it to the politburo.
It is a shame that they accepted such an uneducated person(me) to post here.
 
No recent notes on 2001s. 2005 Chambolle 1er Cru is beginning to close up (no surprise).

I had 1996 Prieur-Roch Nuits-Clos des Corves from magnum last month. I believe Pacalet was still making the wines there back then. It wasn't good, but I think that he wasn't adding sulfur at bottling back then like he is now.
 
originally posted by Claude Kolm:
No recent notes on 2001s. 2005 Chambolle 1er Cru is beginning to close up (no surprise).

I had 1996 Prieur-Roch Nuits-Clos des Corves from magnum last month. I believe Pacalet was still making the wines there back then. It wasn't good, but I think that he wasn't adding sulfur at bottling back then like he is now.

01 Vosne romanee "les hautes maizieres" from magnum was oxidized, turning brown in a minute after opening...
It's too bad, everybody seems to love their wines (foillard and lapierre are buying their barrels from them) but so far, i had only one good experience out of six bottles. Have you visited them claude?
 
originally posted by guilhaume:
originally posted by Claude Kolm:
No recent notes on 2001s. 2005 Chambolle 1er Cru is beginning to close up (no surprise).

I had 1996 Prieur-Roch Nuits-Clos des Corves from magnum last month. I believe Pacalet was still making the wines there back then. It wasn't good, but I think that he wasn't adding sulfur at bottling back then like he is now.

01 Vosne romanee "les hautes maizieres" from magnum was oxidized, turning brown in a minute after opening...
It's too bad, everybody seems to love their wines (foillard and lapierre are buying their barrels from them) but so far, i had only one good experience out of six bottles. Have you visited them claude?
I visited a once or twice in the mid-1990s when Kermit was importing the wines and Pacalet was making them. I hadn't had anything in a long time, but when I was in Burgundy last month there was a very interesting tasting of the monopole premiers crus vineyards of Premeaux-Prissey (southern part of Nuits-St-Georges) where each producer presented the 2006 and 2007 versions of their wines and then one or more older wines. That's where I tasted the 1996. But I have to say, the 2006 and 2007, Nuits-Clos des Corves from Prieur-Roch, which I expected to dislike, were really good. This was a nonblind tasting, so if you believe negative expectations shape opinions, those wines had an uphill battle. Maybe it's worth another visit.
 
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
Prieur-Roch.

I just barfed in my mouth.

So why did you cut off the "I don't like" on my part?
Because if he hadn't cut it off, the correct meaning would have been that he was barfing in his mouth in reaction to your opinion of the wines and not to the wines itself. What kind of school marm are you, anyway?
 
originally posted by Claude Kolm:
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
Prieur-Roch.

I just barfed in my mouth.

So why did you cut off the "I don't like" on my part?
Because if he hadn't cut it off, the correct meaning would have been that he was barfing in his mouth in reaction to your opinion of the wines and not to the wines itself. What kind of school marm are you, anyway?

What Claude said.

By some sexy dresses or something.

Jeesh.
 
originally posted by lucertoran:
originally posted by Claude Kolm:
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:

It's as though I said, "I have a rodent as a pet."
Not even. Because if you have a mouse, it is accurate to describe it as a rodent. If you have a Charmes-Chambertin, technically, it is not correct to describe it as a Gevrey-Chambertin unless it has been declassified, in which case it no longer is a Charmes-Chambertin (but you can use the lieux-dit "Charmes" or "Mazoyres", as the case may be, on the same label with Gevrey-Chambertin for the declassified wine).

See, those of us who aren't religious had to have something to do to fill in for that lack of ridiculous specificity.
You should file a complaint form and send it to the politburo.
It is a shame that they accepted such an uneducated person(me) to post here.

You seem like a nice guy, lucertoran, thank you for posting notes. Claude and Sharon are pretty nice folks, too. My feeling is that they were mainly trying to understand your abbreviations so they could try to respond. I had difficulty with the abbreviations, too; nothing personal. Talking about Burgundy, more so than elsewhere, you can reasonably ask for a bit of precision, without being pedantic.

Welcome aboard.
 
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