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Trimbach 2000 Gewurztraminer Cuve des Seigneurs de Ribeaupierre (Alsace) Rich, even a little sticky, and leaning on the stone fruit and tinned mango expression of very ripe gewrztraminer, while giving up the necessary structure to support it. A bit on the hot side. Its very drinkable and easy, but hasnt much rewarded aging. (12/09)

Trimbach 1996 Gewurztraminer Cuve des Seigneurs de Ribeaupierre (Alsace) Fully mature, and probably on the other side of peak, with a mix of porcine and dried-nut aromatics. Very, very dry. Pepper dusts abound. Pretty interesting, though I dont know how popular it will be. (12/09)

Zind Humbrecht 1994 Muscat Goldert (Alsace) Getting rieslingish, with green grapes dominant. Light and pert, but unquestionably thinning. Linear, acidic, and a little sweet. The finish is salty. Fifteen years was probably a little long to hold this wine. (12/09)

Schoffit 1997 Gewurztraminer Harth Cuve Caroline (Alsace) Lychee and orange syrup. Long and salty. Not my favorite vineyard, producer, or year, but this one has held better than most, and still has just enough structure to pass for wine. Just enough. (12/09)

Boxler 2002 Pinot Blanc L20R (Alsace) An emergent minty note probably signals that this is approaching the end of its maturation and the beginning of its decline. For now, its still solid, with plenty of baking spice-infused pear and apple supported by both fair acidity and light residual sugar. Nice. But Boxler makes better pinot blanc than this bottling. (12/09)

Kreydenweiss 2006 Riesling Andlau Au dessus de la loi (Alsace) Heady, weighty riesling, varietally true and tending towards a molten-metal expression, but most notable for the somewhat formless power with which this metallurgy is delivered. Striking. (12/09)

Sipp Mack 2002 Riesling Vieilles Vignes (Alsace) Reticent and already fading a bit into its brown stagebut not (for the worrywarts) oxidized, just old. Broad minerality and past-prime apple, white pepper, some glassed-in lemon rind, but not a lot of any of these things. Drink up. (12/09)

Sipp Mack 2004 Riesling Vieilles Vignes (Alsace) Softened and oddly herbal, yet theres a ramrod of rieslingish rigidity driven straight through the spine, and a lot of slowly-flaking mineral salts to deal with on the finish. Weird but good. (12/09)

Trimbach 2002 Pinot Gris Rserve (Alsace) Watery and wan, with the impression (but not much of the actuality) of residual sugar, and not much else to recommend it. (12/09)

Trimbach 2001 Gewurztraminer (Alsace) Pork-infused banana skins and cashew bitters with dried lychee and good structure. I dont think theres any point in holding this even a day longer, because its just going to fall apart from now on. (12/09)
 
originally posted by Thor:
Trimbach 1996 Gewurztraminer Cuve des Seigneurs de Ribeaupierre (Alsace) Fully mature, and probably on the other side of peak, with a mix of porcine and dried-nut aromatics. Very, very dry. Pepper dusts abound. Pretty interesting, though I dont know how popular it will be. (12/09)
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Had twice several years ago and, unfortunately, when I smelled it all I could think of was perm solution. I couldn't drink them.
Best, Jim
 
That's what you get for spending so much time in the salon maintaining your luxuriant 'do.
 
originally posted by Thor:
That's what you get for spending so much time in the salon maintaining your luxuriant 'do.
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Conclusive evidence that we have never met.
'Do would be quite a stretch.
Best, Jim
 
originally posted by Florida Jim:
originally posted by Thor:
That's what you get for spending so much time in the salon maintaining your luxuriant 'do.
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Conclusive evidence that we have never met.
'Do would be quite a stretch.
Best, Jim
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From a personal observation Jim's curly locks are seen best a natural. Of course he and his charming wife Diane had plied BL and I with copious amounts of alcohol before this conclusion was reached.
 
originally posted by Lou Kessler:
Truth
originally posted by Florida Jim:
originally posted by Thor:
That's what you get for spending so much time in the salon maintaining your luxuriant 'do.
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Conclusive evidence that we have never met.
'Do would be quite a stretch.
Best, Jim
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From a personal observation Jim's curly locks are seen best a natural. Of course he and his charming wife Diane had plied BL and I with copious amounts of alcohol before this conclusion was reached.
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plied ... me (or was grammar another victim of the ETOH?)
 
Thor, I've been waiting for you (or someone else) to try this. I have but two bottles (purchased at the NH state store during my first visit) and will put one in the drinking queue. Fortunately, both Sandi and I like pepper.

I'm planning to make Dungeness crab and garlic noodles for Sat. dinner. We'll see if that matches well with the wine.
 
originally posted by Lou Kessler:
From a personal observation Jim's curly locks are seen best a natural. Of course he and his charming wife Diane had plied BL and I with copious amounts of alcohol before this conclusion was reached.
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Who be the pliee and who be the plier?
Best, Jim
 
Thor, I've been waiting for you (or someone else) to try this. I have but two bottles (purchased at the NH state store during my first visit) and will put one in the drinking queue. Fortunately, both Sandi and I like pepper.
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Just as an FYI, the two CdSdRs here -- neither mine -- were in good but passive conditions since purchase. I would expect mine to be slightly more lively, but I'd still probably drink nowish.
 
Had a feeling that might be the case. I'll report back when we open it. However, I just realized that I purchased 2 btls. of '97 CFE from there. One was quite youthful, surprising the others at the table who had drunk this and the other was just a touch tired. This was somewhere around 2-3(?) years ago.
 
Trimbach 2002 Pinot Gris Rserve (Alsace) Watery and wan, with the impression (but not much of the actuality) of residual sugar, and not much else to recommend it. (12/09)
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Wasn't this a pleasant quaff in its youth, or does my memory betray me?
 
However, I just realized that I purchased 2 btls. of '97 CFE from there. One was quite youthful, surprising the others at the table who had drunk this and the other was just a touch tired. This was somewhere around 2-3(?) years ago.
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The '97 CFEs have always been early-maturing wines, though they haven't (at least shay mwah) even hinted at leaving the plateau yet. I didn't buy any from the NHSLC, though...or if I did, I gave it all to the in-laws.

Wasn't this a pleasant quaff in its youth, or does my memory betray me?
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In fact, just two years ago it was extraordinary, one of the best "Rserve" bottlings in years. This, like many of the others, was my father-in-law's bottle, and who knows how many nights he left it in the car? I don't think I have any left, though, to counter-check.

Thor, in general, are the wines from Alsace as short lived as your notes here suggest?
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That's far too general a question for me to answer. Some age -- some for a long time, some for a while -- and some don't. I would probably drink most Alsatian wines before their qualitative German equivalents, with exceedingly rare exceptions.

In brief, these particular Trimbachs (from unknown conditions here) should be better than this, other Boxler Pinot Blancs do much better than this Chadderdon bottling, 15 years is a big ask for Alsatian muscat from anyone, Schoffit makes thick wines in the best of years and is not a legendary house o' aging except for the occasional bottle, Sipp Mack is really only ageable from the crus and with the late-harvest wines (and even then, not always), though I do think they're a fairly solid producer, and Kreydenweiss is a wine-by-wine -- perhaps even bottle-by-bottle -- adventure that I can only attribute to their specific regimes in the vineyard and cellar, because they're unpredictable.
 
originally posted by Thor: I would probably drink most Alsatian wines before their qualitative German equivalents, with exceedingly rare exceptions.
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That's sort of the general answer I was looking for.

originally posted by Thor
In brief, these particular Trimbachs (from unknown conditions here) should be better than this, other Boxler Pinot Blancs do much better than this Chadderdon bottling, 15 years is a big ask for Alsatian muscat from anyone, Schoffit makes thick wines in the best of years and is not a legendary house o' aging except for the occasional bottle, Sipp Mack is really only ageable from the crus and with the late-harvest wines (and even then, not always), though I do think they're a fairly solid producer, and Kreydenweiss is a wine-by-wine -- perhaps even bottle-by-bottle -- adventure that I can only attribute to their specific regimes in the vineyard and cellar, because they're unpredictable.
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That's sort of the specific answer I was looking for.

Thanks for both.
 
"Rich, even a little sticky," wow, things have changed. Trimbach used to be known as the "Protestant" producer--richness was for decadent Catholics. All right, I'm being disingenuous. Still, it's hard to think of these guys producing wines like Jacky Barthelme's.
 
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