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Florida Jim

Florida Jim
2002 Luneau-Papin, Muscadet Clos des Alles:
One sip, and the world slows down beautiful in ways I cant even describe; clean, clear, crisp but not shrill in the least; beguiling depth and intensity but the overall impression is of whole-cloth nothing missing or disjointed and an endless ebb and flow of nuance that carries me off. Inspiring!

2006 Quinta de Ventoselo, Cister da Ribeira Tinto:
A Douro blend of touriga franca, tinta roriz, touriga nacional and tinta barroca, 13% abv; slightly aldehydic nose with light red fruit scents; somewhat thin in the mouth but pleasant and balanced a lightweight wine. $9; no re-buy.

2004 El Sequ, Alicante:
All or mostly monastrell (mourvedre), 14% alcohol; I found earlier vintages to be too oaky, extractive and expensive this is not; very singular but pure on the nose the aroma of blueberries being sauted; also linear on the palate with a smooth texture and nice balance; nothing out of place here, albeit a bit simple. Even so, its simple in a good way with a an attractive and distinctive flavor and I like it and will buy it again, even at its $20 price.

(Unknown vintage) Galiciano, Mencia Noite:
No vintage on the label but I think one of the labels usually on this bottling is missing, 13%, $13; smells and tastes grapey a flavor I enjoy although it is straight-forward and without nuance; balanced, bright and quaffable. Tastes more like ngrette then mencia but regardless, its a fun drink.

1999 Maison Leroy, Volnay Santenots:
Balsamic and stewed fruit nose; acidic and attenuated in the mouth with no sense of place or variety after several hours of airing it is marginally better with varietal character but no sense of place. Tolerable with food, otherwise, not. Poor wine although at least it has dropped most of its new oak smells and flavors.
(Aside: This is one of those wines that I think was adversely affected by its new oak treatment. Certainly, I could be wrong. But I have a theory that new oak can be very insidious in its effects not just sawn lumber smells and flavors but rather the masking or altering of subtle elements in the nose and flavor profile as well as the texture. When released, this was massively oaked, to the point that I thought it obscured aromas and flavors. Now, this wine supports my notion; it is stripped and becoming a shell of what the wine had at release.)

2008 Bodega Hinojosa, 2 Copas:
20% malbec and 80% tempranillo from Argentina; one of very few wines from this country that make me think the place has promise; this is round but has cut, is quite structured yet full of fruit and is nuanced in ways I had no idea could come from this blend; not sweet, or overtly tannic or unbalanced in any way and such a pleasure to taste that I probably had too much. Someone elses bring but my guess would be less than $20.

2000 Belle Pente, Pinot Noir Estate Reserve:
Earthy but fruit driven mostly dark fruit good balance and sustain. This wine has never risen to the heights that some of the Murto Vnyd. pinots have but this is solid, of its place and went very well with a quinoa and roasted vegetable casserole.

2005 de Villaine, Bourgogne La Digoine:
Lightweight, translucent, pure, vinous heaven; does not attempt to be grand cru and we are all the better for it. I could drink this wine once a week for the rest of my life and always feel that I could find a meal to go with it and that I would walk away from the table happy. Joyous wine.

2007 Masi, Valpolicella Bonacosta:
12% and about $15; pizza wine as it should be; grapey, straight-forward, good cut and nice balance. Nothing to age or write home about but ideal with simple fare when one would like to do something else with the rest of the day besides nap.

Best, Jim
 
originally posted by Florida Jim: 1999 Maison Leroy, Volnay Santenots:(Aside: This is one of those wines that I think was adversely affected by its new oak treatment...Now, this wine supports my notion; it is stripped and becoming a shell of what the wine had at release.)

I know you are just offering your opinion but do you think it is possible that this is a difficult time to judge such a wine? I know this is Maison and not Domaine but aren't many of the Leroy wines built for the long-long haul?

Not that I have any stake in defending their style. Just asking the question since one doesn't read about too many 99s showing well these days.
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by Florida Jim: 1999 Maison Leroy, Volnay Santenots:(Aside: This is one of those wines that I think was adversely affected by its new oak treatment...Now, this wine supports my notion; it is stripped and becoming a shell of what the wine had at release.)

I know you are just offering your opinion but do you think it is possible that this is a difficult time to judge such a wine? I know this is Maison and not Domaine but aren't many of the Leroy wines built for the long-long haul?

Not that I have any stake in defending their style. Just asking the question since one doesn't read about too many 99s showing well these days.

One reads of 1999s showing excellently these days. All over the place.

It isn't unreasonable to expect a 1er cru to show well. The issue is probably one of extraction + oak + short elevage*. Or something like that.

* On my laptop, I don't have a number pad, so I can't use the alt keyboard, or don't know how. How do you set up English(International) keyboard? It isn't under settings->admin tools->keyboard or ->languages...???
 
originally posted by VLM:
One reads of 1999s showing excellently these days. All over the place.

You're probably more widely read than I am.

And I am fully prepared to believe in the faults of the oak on this wine. I was just posing the question to see what others thought.
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by Florida Jim: 1999 Maison Leroy, Volnay Santenots:(Aside: This is one of those wines that I think was adversely affected by its new oak treatment...Now, this wine supports my notion; it is stripped and becoming a shell of what the wine had at release.)

I know you are just offering your opinion but do you think it is possible that this is a difficult time to judge such a wine? I know this is Maison and not Domaine but aren't many of the Leroy wines built for the long-long haul?

Not that I have any stake in defending their style. Just asking the question since one doesn't read about too many 99s showing well these days.

Rahsaan,
The simple answer to your questions is yes.
As a theory, I will continue to test against it to see if I get any consistency - clearly, I'm not looking for scientific certainty especially since the only evidence is anecdotal.
I have another bottle of this and will try it in the future.
Best, Jim
 
originally posted by VLM:* On my laptop, I don't have a number pad, so I can't use the alt keyboard, or don't know how. How do you set up English(International) keyboard? It isn't under settings->admin tools->keyboard or ->languages...???

Not unusual for laptops to lack a number pad, but it would be odd for it not to have the horizontal row of numbers under the ! @ # $ % ^ & * ( ) keys.

Mine doesn't have a pad, but has, in addition to the horizontal row, the ten numerals written in blue on the same keys as some of the letters on the right hand side. By pressing the Num Lk (Number Lock) key, they can be used as a pad. = Alt 130

Jim, glad to hear the Villaine continues to come through for you. I should revisit.
 
I have not had any 99s that show well recently except a Drouhin Amoureuses and there have been more than a few. They are to be left. Having said which this sounds like a bad bottle though I agree about the potentially poisonous effect of this kind of oak abuse.
 
originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
originally posted by VLM:* On my laptop, I don't have a number pad, so I can't use the alt keyboard, or don't know how. How do you set up English(International) keyboard? It isn't under settings->admin tools->keyboard or ->languages...???

Not unusual for laptops to lack a number pad, but it would be odd for it not to have the horizontal row of numbers under the ! @ # $ % ^ & * ( ) keys.

Doesn't work.

Mine doesn't have a pad, but has, in addition to the horizontal row, the ten numerals written in blue on the same keys as some of the letters on the right hand side. By pressing the Num Lk (Number Lock) key, they can be used as a pad. = Alt 130

Of course, but that is mighty inconvenient. I was looking for a simpler solution.
 
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
Switch to Mac, dude.

Most of the software I use does not have a MAC version. Running windows on a MAC seems comical to me.

I don't want to use it in a UNIX environment.

Generally, I find a MAC environment non-intuitive.
 
originally posted by Tom Blach:
I have not had any 99s that show well recently except a Drouhin Amoureuses and there have been more than a few. They are to be left. Having said which this sounds like a bad bottle though I agree about the potentially poisonous effect of this kind of oak abuse.

I've had some delicious 1999s lately.

I might like my wines at a different stage. Were yours entirely shut down?
 
VLM, if you won't use the "stealth" number pad option, the final semi-easy solution is to write in Word (or, I suppose, any other Office application), in which one can use keyboard shortcuts similar to those on the Mac to create these characters. Ctrl-' [vowel] for acute, ctrl-` for grave, ctrl-: [vowel] for an umlaut, ctrl-~ [vowel] for a tilde, ctrl-, [vowel] for a cedilla, and ctrl-^ [vowel] for a circumflex.

Or: Claude's solution.
 
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by Tom Blach:
I have not had any 99s that show well recently except a Drouhin Amoureuses and there have been more than a few. They are to be left. Having said which this sounds like a bad bottle though I agree about the potentially poisonous effect of this kind of oak abuse.

I've had some delicious 1999s lately.

I might like my wines at a different stage. Were yours entirely shut down?

Mostly not completely, just quiet and primary.
It does seem that wines are often a year ahead on your side of the pond though.
 
I have said it elsewhere here. I've been surprised by a few 99s also. Really electric and at a great place. Which isn't to say they won't last a lot longer. Just that they are pretty wonderful right now. Chevillon Busselots. Barthod Beaux Bruns, Lignier Morey St. Denis Chaffots, even a Potel Vosne Romanee.
 
originally posted by Florida Jim:
2000 Belle Pente, Pinot Noir Estate Reserve:
Earthy but fruit driven mostly dark fruit good balance and sustain. This wine has never risen to the heights that some of the Murto Vnyd. pinots have but this is solid, of its place and went very well with a quinoa and roasted vegetable casserole.

I had the 1996 Belle Pente Reserve last night and it was a delightful experience. It was earthy with dark fruit and went real well with some roast pork. It kinda restores one's faith in the potential of new world pinot noir.

originally posted by VLM:

Generally, I find a MAC environment non-intuitive.

I too sometimes feel lost and disassociated in Starbucks coffee houses.

-Eden ("intuitive" depends on what you're used to...Windows is the least intuitive OS I've ever attempted to work with, making NO FUCKING SENSE TO ME AT ALL, but that's probably just because I've never owned any computer that wasn't a Mac. When I do have to use a PC, I find that it's kind of like trying to play a 5-string bass guitar when you've only ever played a 4-string bass. It messes with your mind and it all just feels unnatural and kind of creepy, y'know?)
 
PS: Nice review of the 06 Belle Pente Murto at 750ml: http://www.750ml.blogspot.com/

That's all.

-Eden (but Jim, if the world slows down when you drink Luneau-Papin, does that mean that it takes longer to get older? It sounds like the sort of wine review Albert Einstein might have written)
 
one sip, and the world slows down

hard to skip over that line quickly, Jim (despite the thread title)

and to think i swore off lower case usage this year

ps - fwiw, thread title is way better than "simply red"
 
originally posted by Florida Jim:
2004 El Sequ, Alicante:
All or mostly monastrell (mourvedre), 14% alcohol; I found earlier vintages to be too oaky, extractive and expensive this is not.
Shows you everyone can learn, even in Spain... El Sequ is the southeastern Spanish branch of the better-known Artadi - Alicante instead of Rioja, monastrell instead of tempranillo, but same ideas and same winemakers, Juan Carlos Lpez de Lacalle and Jean-Franois Gadeau. Artadi has also been much accused of overoaking, which IMHO has not at all been the case for quite a few years now. (BTW, if this was the El Sequ and not the second wine, Laderas de El Sequ, young vines, I think that $20 was a terrific price.) Also, these monastrell/mourvdre wines are known for gaining complexity and smoothness in bottle, so it might not be a bad idea to cellar a few and come back to them in a few years.
 
originally posted by Thor:
VLM, if you won't use the "stealth" number pad option, the final semi-easy solution is to write in Word (or, I suppose, any other Office application), in which one can use keyboard shortcuts similar to those on the Mac to create these characters. Ctrl-' [vowel] for acute, ctrl-` for grave, ctrl-: [vowel] for an umlaut, ctrl-~ [vowel] for a tilde, ctrl-, [vowel] for a cedilla, and ctrl-^ [vowel] for a circumflex.

Or: Claude's solution.

Fck tht.
 
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