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Tasting Muscadet and some Touraine, 2010
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Cory Cartwright
Cory Cartwright
I've tried that and other LPs, older Pepieres, older Bossards, multiple back vintages of Landron and I can't think of a single one that I'd pick up over a young Amphibolite or a Briords. But than again some people don't like chardonnay so let's not argue taste.
Recanting for sentiment is something we all learn to do, eventually.we'll try to be polite when you recant
originally posted by Thor:
....their boring youth.
Most youth is pretty 'boring'.
Cory Cartwright
Cory Cartwright
Man, where did you grow up? I can remember non-stop excitement in my youth. I don't think i could get as excited now as i did when i saw, say, a big lizard or a really cool lightning storm.
Ian Fitzsimmons
Ian Fitzsimmons
originally posted by Jay Miller:
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
Jay - on closer examination, its a 'pre-arrival' sale. Which makes more sense.
Thanks. I was afraid that my Olliviey Sense was failing me.
Update: Chambers is offering the 09 briords as of today.
Ian Fitzsimmons
Ian Fitzsimmons
originally posted by Seth Hill:
originally posted by Lyle Fass:
Great notes Joe.
As for aging the long lees contact Muscadet a 2001 Clos des Noelles Semper Excelsior in late 2007 was about as profound a Muscadet as I've had. I also had many bottles of the 2002 CDNSE and they are all were riveting and showing no signs of slowing down. They seem to retain great freshness, these extra leesy Muscadets. As for the non extra-leesy ones I am not convinced.
I do believe, in contrast to VLM, that the Bossard l'Expression bottlings do benefit from 1 or 2 years to get their shit together.
I had one of the '02 L-P Excelsiors a short while back. I wondered whether it was bit of a shame not to wait another ten years or so, but it was lovely. Pulse-quickening in its purity, like that first awkward kiss between two kids sitting on the beach- "Where Do These Braces Go?" metallic zing, hint of shared Honey-Yuzu Flavor Lick'em Stick (touch of 5-Second Rule sand included), and OMG! nervous sweat (or was it just the sea spray?).
Memorable.
B-21 was selling these at, like, $10/bottle a year or two ago, and I bought a case. Drop by if you're in the neighborhood in a few years and we'll check them out.
By the way, Chambers sent a note around today offering past vintages of various muscadet producers, including - I think - Luneau's 02 L d'Or.
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
By the way, Chambers sent a note around today offering past vintages of various muscadet producers, including - I think - Luneau's 02 L d'Or.
A very fine wine. I last had it a year or two ago and it was still quite young.
Mark Lipton
originally posted by MLipton:
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
By the way, Chambers sent a note around today offering past vintages of various muscadet producers, including - I think - Luneau's 02 L d'Or.
A very fine wine. I last had it a year or two ago and it was still quite young.
Mark Lipton
A wine that will age really well.
B-21 was selling these at, like, $10/bottle a year or two ago, and I bought a case. Drop by if you're in the neighborhood in a few years and we'll check them out.
I thought you lived in VA, not FLA?
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by MLipton:
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
By the way, Chambers sent a note around today offering past vintages of various muscadet producers, including - I think - Luneau's 02 L d'Or.
A very fine wine. I last had it a year or two ago and it was still quite young.
Mark Lipton
A wine that will age really well.
'Course yours will be long drunk up by that time
Ian Fitzsimmons
Ian Fitzsimmons
originally posted by MarkS:
B-21 was selling these at, like, $10/bottle a year or two ago, and I bought a case. Drop by if you're in the neighborhood in a few years and we'll check them out.
I thought you lived in VA, not FLA?
Correct.
Agree with Mark and VLM.originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by MLipton:
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
By the way, Chambers sent a note around today offering past vintages of various muscadet producers, including - I think - Luneau's 02 L d'Or.
A very fine wine. I last had it a year or two ago and it was still quite young.
Mark Lipton
A wine that will age really well.
Jay Miller
Jay Miller
The Trois was good, with an especially interesting texture, but I probably wouldn't choose it in preference to the '05 Briords or Pepiere.
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originally posted by SFJoe:
Marc has his reds in 2009. The Cabernet Franc has a big tasty CF nose, just gorgeous. It’s a light wine, refreshing and tasty. Glug glug.
The ’09 cot has a darker streak and more tannin, but also has excellent ripeness and open flavors.
The Pepie (Cab sauvignon, Cab franc, cot, merlot) is less expressive on the nose, but is great in the mouth and has a nice finish. A very good vintage of this.
Is the second wine described here known as vins de pays jardin de france cot? I ordered a bottle at this shop that I've never heard of before, in Tribeca, but what arrived was a bottle of Pepie, which nevertheless said "Cot" on it. Is Cot the predominant variety in the blend, but did I still receive the wrong wine?
The stuff was delicious, btw. A jammy topnote that never penetrates the wine, otherwise fresh, bouncy, extremely stony, just delightful. Two of us killed the bottle in 30 minutes.
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we were just wondering if cot dominated the 2009 as well, given that the variety is displayed fairly prominently on the label