It's not just for vignerons anymore

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SFJoe

Joe Dougherty
Joel Robuchon at In 'n Out Burger:

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This California restaurant is beloved of many of France's most prominent vignerons:

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Asking for them well-done or even extra-well helps, and you can always do them animal style to mask the limpness*, but as a rule there's no reason to waste calories on the fries when one can be eating a 2x4 or, in hungry times, a 3x6.

(* yes, yes, I know)
 
The fries just aren't good there. Unfortunately, Raynolds didn't give me the secret password that unlocked the hidden burger menu before I went out to CA last year, so all I had was a cheeseburger and wondered what the big deal was. The Shake Shack double stack blows away what I had at In 'n Out.
 
It's true that Fatburger, SS, and TR are better than In-n-Out, if we can call TR & SS chains (which is dubious, though getting less so in the latter case). But it's also true that were InO to move to, say, Boston, they would have by far the best burgers among the fast food chains. Dubious props, maybe, but props of a sort.

Plus: bonus bible verses! And who doesn't want those with their processed American cheese product slices?
 
Same in DC. In n' Out would blow away most of the competition, with the exception of Ray's Hellburger. It would certainly crush 5 Guys.

And yes, the In n' Out fries are inedible.
 
Are these fries just soggy? Because I like soggy fries.

Ground beef of unknown origin, on the other hand, is something I avoid at all costs.
 
originally posted by Kay Bixler:
Are these fries just soggy? Because I like soggy fries.

Ground beef of unknown origin, on the other hand, is something I avoid at all costs.
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Double-double, protein style (these days), animal style.

I think the fries are ok, bit limp, but ok. But the burger is the reason to go...and the shakes are nice. Different style of burger than the Shake Shack, I think.

One of the reasons food-knowledgeable persons (even Eric Schlosser) have felt good about going to In-n-Out is that they make a lot of noise about grinding their own beef, processing everything at their facility in LA, won't open any restaurants more than a day's drive from said facility, etc. Of course when a local beef processor had a huge recall, In-n-out had to admit they got their beef from the same place and the illusion dissolved.

Still, I love their burgers...not the Varsity of my youth, but I love 'em.
 
originally posted by Kay Bixler:
Ground beef of unknown origin, on the other hand, is something I avoid at all costs.
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Kay, rest assured, the beef is a mix, mostly US raised, some of it processed in industrial sized plants in the US which have strident regulations, many of which are observed. Added to this mix is beef (probably from the US) which has been shipped out to be processed more cheaply in industrial sized plants in central or south America, which have some regulations, depending on the day. Then it all gets shipped back to the US and mixed together. Feel better?
 
originally posted by SFJoe:
C'mon, everybody likes a burger.

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Gotta admit that in the last ten years, I don't think I've had any except one or two at Zuni, and that's even counting at home. Not that I don't like them, but there are so many more delicious and intersting ways to fill out your calorie quota (not a question some decades ago, I confess).
 
The fries are not nearly as good as McD's, the burgers not nearly as good as the Shake Shack, but the shakes are totally awesome and I'll go anytime.
 
originally posted by Joel Stewart:
originally posted by Kay Bixler:
Ground beef of unknown origin, on the other hand, is something I avoid at all costs.
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Kay, rest assured, the beef is a mix, mostly US raised, some of it processed in industrial sized plants in the US which have strident regulations, many of which are observed. Added to this mix is beef (probably from the US) which has been shipped out to be processed more cheaply in industrial sized plants in central or south America, which have some regulations, depending on the day. Then it all gets shipped back to the US and mixed together. Feel better?
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I'll have mine extra well-done, please, lots of ketchup and onions.
 
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