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Ignacio Villalgordo

Ignacio Villalgordo
Just recieved 36 bottles of 2005 trollat st. joseph...under neocork

The wine is wonderful, but would benefit from a long time in the cellar. As I am not confident in the wine's aging under this closure, my question would be, is recorking an option?

Thanks
 
Much as it pains me to disagree with brother Jim, I must. You can get quite a bit of oxygen into a wine as you recork it including the compressed headspace). This could lead to bottle variation and decline down the road. You should take considerable pains to exclude air as you recork--a glove bag, dry ice strewn about, or what have you.

I also worry that several years under neocork may already have advanced your wine and that recorking may come too late, but your note would seem to put that worry to bed.

I read a lot about variable oxygenation in bottling lines contributing to differential aging down the road.
 
He produces the small number of bottles allowed after official retirement (maybe someone will know more details). From what I heard, 2005 is his last vintage
 
originally posted by SFJoe:
Much as it pains me to disagree with brother Jim, I must. You can get quite a bit of oxygen into a wine as you recork it including the compressed headspace). This could lead to bottle variation and decline down the road. You should take considerable pains to exclude air as you recork--a glove bag, dry ice strewn about, or what have you.

I also worry that several years under neocork may already have advanced your wine and that recorking may come too late, but your note would seem to put that worry to bed.

I read a lot about variable oxygenation in bottling lines contributing to differential aging down the road.
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Joe,
FWIW, I was speaking about a professional re-corking as opposed to do-it-yourself.
But your points are well taken and considering that this is not the most current vintage, maybe re-corking won't be so good. Of course, it is syrah, and that can usually use a little air.
Somewhere I read that a NZ chardonnay maker of some repute took their entire library and had it screwcapped (was under cork) with success - so far.
Best, Jim
 
well, SC would have the opposite problem from synthetic, you would think
 
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
What if you squirt a little argon into the neck space between corks?[/
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Sure. As long as it never sees air, including when you pop the cork, a continuous Ar wash would work. Maybe your lovely assistant could point the
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The guy who sold them to me sent me this message:

It's been like this since 2000 or 2001, because Trollat have had a lot of bad experiences with real cork in the past (probably due to a lack of quality-bad choice- in his corks). Trollat is a man who thinks that his wines are not made for aging, even if tastings have prooved he was (sometimes) wrong, so 8 or 10 years ago he decided to avoid these kind of problem in using synthetic corks. The magnums have same synthetic corks. I agree with your opinion concerning aging with these corks but changing the mind of a man like Raymond Trollat appears illusory.
 
You know, I like that response. There's honesty and a surprising opportunity for insight in it. Which is why it's a good thing you didn't identify the source, because no good ever comes of that.
 
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