Joe Dressner
Joe Dressner
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2009 Pepiere Muscadet
- Thread starter Jay Miller
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You have to know the importer.
like 2003 ripe?originally posted by .sasha:
the 09 is ripe, make no mistake about it
Matteo Mollo
Matteo Mollo
originally posted by Marc D:
like 2003 ripe?originally posted by .sasha:
the 09 is ripe, make no mistake about it
can't seem to recall the expiration of several thousand people due to extreme heat in 2009. No, not 03 ripe, just riper than 06, 07*, 08.
*we are talking Loire here
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originally posted by Marc D:
like 2003 ripe?originally posted by .sasha:
the 09 is ripe, make no mistake about it
more like 2000, but with slightly darker, warmer, deeper fruits
Jay Miller
Jay Miller
originally posted by Marc D:
like 2003 ripe?originally posted by .sasha:
the 09 is ripe, make no mistake about it
Definitely not like 2003. That was one of the few (perhaps the only) vintages I disliked. This was delicious though certainly ripe for Pepiere.
Kay Bixler
Kay Bixler
Jay, the only problem with an oyster-peach is they ripen in different seasons. Maybe there is some overlap in September. But I understand what you're saying.
Jeff Grossman
Jeff Grossman
You didn't expect them to die again, did you?originally posted by Matteo Mollo:
can't seem to recall the expiration of several thousand people due to extreme heat in 2009.
Jeff Grossman
Jeff Grossman
Drank it tonight. It is very yummy, as I have come to expect from Pepiere, but I think I'm with Rahsaan: it isn't ripe enough to call 'peach', though it is too ripe to call 'lime'.originally posted by Rahsaan:
Although when I think 'peach' I think of yellowish orange fruits and stuff that moves into off-dry German riesling territory, whereas even the riper Muscadets don't quite move that far.
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to celebrate this ever important thread, I opened the 2008 Pepiere last night
by comparison, it was like licking minerals
I urge these gentlemen, whose impatience will land them on the politburo list, to observe the 2009 over at least a couple of days
by comparison, it was like licking minerals
I urge these gentlemen, whose impatience will land them on the politburo list, to observe the 2009 over at least a couple of days
The 2009 at lunch today was on the plush end of the pepiere spectrum.
I, too, would hold out for the 2nd bottling--he had to rush the first to market a bit and it doesn't have full benefit of the lees.
I heard a rumor yesterday that the 2nd bottling may even have real corks, though my source is sometimes unreliable.
I, too, would hold out for the 2nd bottling--he had to rush the first to market a bit and it doesn't have full benefit of the lees.
I heard a rumor yesterday that the 2nd bottling may even have real corks, though my source is sometimes unreliable.
Jeff Grossman
Jeff Grossman
Thank you, .sasha, for the cautionary note. I have a bottle of 2007 sitting here awaiting its moment in the glass (sometime in the next few days).
Saina Nieminen
Saina Nieminen
I finally got to drink this rather than simply taste it. Rich and fruity as far my very limited experience with this lovely area goes, but focused and just incredible fun. I do prefer the Eden '08 and Granit de Clisson '07, however, but with my inexperience due to unavailability I can't say whether that is because of vintage or because these are superior cuves or both.
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
What's an oyster-peach?
I'm sure it's not one coming from Louisiana right now.
originally posted by SFJoe:
Otto, the Clisson is essentially an old vines cuvee from the same vineyard as Pepiere given a longer elevage sur lie. So you'd come to it with higher expectations.
And presumedly a longer cellar life?
Ian Fitzsimmons
Ian Fitzsimmons
originally posted by SFJoe:
Otto, the Clisson is essentially an old vines cuvee from the same vineyard as Pepiere given a longer elevage sur lie. So you'd come to it with higher expectations.
G. de Clisson also costs nearly twice as much as the regular bottling, so, what Joe said.
That's my bet.originally posted by MarkS:
originally posted by SFJoe:
Otto, the Clisson is essentially an old vines cuvee from the same vineyard as Pepiere given a longer elevage sur lie. So you'd come to it with higher expectations.
And presumedly a longer cellar life?
Also, the regular had fake corks in recent vintages, so you wouldn't want to chance it anyway.originally posted by SFJoe:
That's my bet.originally posted by MarkS:
originally posted by SFJoe:
Otto, the Clisson is essentially an old vines cuvee from the same vineyard as Pepiere given a longer elevage sur lie. So you'd come to it with higher expectations.
And presumedly a longer cellar life?