Joues de cochons & north Rhone 2000 at the tgjp

[mlawton]

originally posted by Claude Kolm:

originally posted by mlawton:
Claude, is Rosenthal's new producer Lionnet? It seems to be "Domaine Lionnet" a rebirth of the old Lionnet, not Jean/Rochepertuis and I guess it's bio, etc. Looks interesting.

It is Lionnet, but not the same as the old Jean Lionnet/Domaine de Rochepertuis. The old Lionnet's vines have reverted to Mathieu Barret who works without sulfur except for a little at bottling.

Thanks. I've had Barret's wines since 2001 and liked some, not all. I'll look for the "new" Lionnet.

 

[Claude Kolm]

originally posted by Yixin:
Pray tell more. I thought the wine too leathery but still good.

He was more into new wood and barriques then than he his now. I'm assuming this was Gilles (I think papa Pierre was still making separate wine back then, but my memory may be faulty).

 

[Yixin]

It was labelled Pierre Barge - I bought this about a decade ago from a London broker.

 

[Claude Kolm]

originally posted by Yixin:
It was labelled Pierre Barge - I bought this about a decade ago from a London broker.

I think that was still being made in very traditional style (while Gilles was experimenting with more modern), but I don't know how the land was split between Gilles and Pierre back then. Was this labelled Cte Brune or Plessy? Also, I think Pierre probably was still only bottling on demand at the time.