TN: '08 Luneau-Papin Clos des Alles

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Kay Bixler

Kay Bixler
To me more mountain-like than marine as it just has this green warmth that makes me see lush vegetation. Could be algae. Soft, powdery texture and vibrant finish. Quite interesting just to sip, also great with codfish.

Probably my favorite Muscadet in any vintage.

Best,
Kay
 
I asked the hippie in town to special order it for me. Didn't request any specific vintage, just a case of whatever was available. So I guess 2008 is what's available if you bug your favorite retailer.
 
originally posted by Kay Bixler:
Didn't request any specific vintage, just a case of whatever was available.
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Not a bad strategy. And I like the mountain vegetation description. Not sure I have 'favorites' but I usually like this bottling a lot.
 
i have a boner for allees too.

based on the soil, jd tells me i'm a slut.

so be it.

fb.
 
I admit it I am a Clos Alles slut, too.

I know I am supposed to like other muscadets more, but I usually do not.
 
originally posted by Kay Bixler:
I asked the hippie in town to special order it for me. Didn't request any specific vintage, just a case of whatever was available. So I guess 2008 is what's available if you bug your favorite retailer.
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or your favorite hippie!
 
originally posted by Kay Bixler:
Well the CdA has a softer feel, maybe fruitier too and smells like rain water and shale in spring. At least to me.
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Yeah, OK. I've always liked the lime, limestone bite of the L d'Or. Also what it does with some years. I've never cellared an Alls. Do things happen to it too or am I looking for the wrong things.
 
I still like the '99, A LOT, but didn't cellar much else. L d'Or will probably be a better choice for aging but you know, it's all about preference.
 
originally posted by Kay Bixler:
I still like the '99...
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Huh. Just checked the inventory. I have a few '97s. Will have to look in on one soon.

First bottle of '97 Clos des Briords last night was shot, but the second was great, in a mad '97 sort of way.

Anyone remember if there is botrytis in the '97 Allees?
 
originally posted by SFJoe:First bottle of '97 Clos des Briords last night was shot, but the second was great, in a mad '97 sort of way.
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It is a wooly wonder. I still have hope.

And since this thread drifted towards the L d'Or I have to mention that this past winter the 2001 was a spectacular match with, of all things, venison pot pie. It was prepared by a friend who is very good cook and he claimed mustard plays heavily in the recipe, though it certainly didn't overwhelm the flavor of the dish. I'll ask him for the recipe and post here.
 
originally posted by Jay Miller:
originally posted by Marc D:
I thought the Excelsior Clos des Noelles was the slutty cuvee.

It's getting harder to keep up these days.
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I was not particularly impressed by an '05 tonight.
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How come, too ripe or fat or something?

Last one I tried was the 2002, which was very fine.
 
I opened a couple 02 excelsiors last year, both the Noelles and Poyet, and thought they were hard and young. Been holding off since, but maybe it's time to try again.
 
I opened the 08 Clos des Allees last night. I haven't tried one of these since the 2005 vintage, because I had plenty of 02 and 05 to drink. Well they are gone now, so I picked up a few 2008s.

I agree with Kay, except I thought there was plenty of marine stuff going on in my bottle.

To me this is a classic version of Muscadet, nervy and bracing, mostly minerals, a little lime. Lithe.

The 08s (Luneau Papin, even Roilette) seem to be languishing a bit on the shelves out here. Everyone must be waiting for the vintage of the millennium to arrive, but .sasha is right about these so called "off vintages". Pretty nice wines for drinking now.
 
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