Kermit Lynch 4/10

originally posted by Lyle Fass:

The VV bottling from Domaine du Cros is my top Fer. Not around much but a killer rendition. Cheap too. Under $17.
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After many bottles (actually, after just the first), I agree. Great wine.
 
originally posted by Lyle Fass:
originally posted by Zachary Ross:
originally posted by Lyle Fass:
originally posted by MLipton:
originally posted by Lyle Fass:

Coincidence. Not enough people over at other places who like to drink and talk about the wines I like. Primary reason I am here.

And for what it's worth I never posted my '08 Foillard notes here for the exact reason of what has transpired.
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On a related note, Lyle, you and I are the only two people I've seen on teh Interwebs who've shown much love for Fer Servadou. Have you had any other wines beyond the Causse Marines Marcillac that featured an appealing rendition of it? It fair knocked me out when I tried some last year.

Mark Lipton
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The VV bottling from Domaine du Cros is my top Fer. Not around much but a killer rendition. Cheap too. Under $17.
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That there Fer is the bomb. The Lo Sang del Pais is pretty great too. The Causse Marines is also stellar. I know you're not fond of the Laurens, but I've liked it ok.
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The Lauren seems to have no sense of place or sense of Fer. And Fer is a sense of place grape big time. Plus it is very distinctive when dominating a wine or a blend. Laurens is a dark, chewy, refined, tooti-frooti very dense wine. Does that sound like Fer or even Marcillac? Maybe chewy could work because of the tannins, but dark and dense and tooti-frooti, no way. It is well made but does not speak of Fer Servadou grown in Marcillac to me. The rose seemed like it captures Fer and Marcillac better.

I like the Lo Sang too. That is a great quaffer.
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That doesn't match my (limited) experience with Laurens. It to me seemed lighter and less "serious" than Cros or Causse Marines, but had the general characteristics of Fer (pepperiness, etc.). Maybe I was just lucky. In any case, I greatly prefer the Cros and Causse Marines to Laurens.
 
originally posted by Zachary Ross:
originally posted by Lyle Fass:
originally posted by Zachary Ross:
originally posted by Lyle Fass:
originally posted by MLipton:
originally posted by Lyle Fass:

Coincidence. Not enough people over at other places who like to drink and talk about the wines I like. Primary reason I am here.

And for what it's worth I never posted my '08 Foillard notes here for the exact reason of what has transpired.
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On a related note, Lyle, you and I are the only two people I've seen on teh Interwebs who've shown much love for Fer Servadou. Have you had any other wines beyond the Causse Marines Marcillac that featured an appealing rendition of it? It fair knocked me out when I tried some last year.

Mark Lipton
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The VV bottling from Domaine du Cros is my top Fer. Not around much but a killer rendition. Cheap too. Under $17.
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That there Fer is the bomb. The Lo Sang del Pais is pretty great too. The Causse Marines is also stellar. I know you're not fond of the Laurens, but I've liked it ok.
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The Lauren seems to have no sense of place or sense of Fer. And Fer is a sense of place grape big time. Plus it is very distinctive when dominating a wine or a blend. Laurens is a dark, chewy, refined, tooti-frooti very dense wine. Does that sound like Fer or even Marcillac? Maybe chewy could work because of the tannins, but dark and dense and tooti-frooti, no way. It is well made but does not speak of Fer Servadou grown in Marcillac to me. The rose seemed like it captures Fer and Marcillac better.

I like the Lo Sang too. That is a great quaffer.
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That doesn't match my (limited) experience with Laurens. It to me seemed lighter and less "serious" than Cros or Causse Marines, but had the general characteristics of Fer (pepperiness, etc.). Maybe I was just lucky. In any case, I greatly prefer the Cros and Causse Marines to Laurens.
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We sold an ocean of it at Crush and I must have had a good bottle initially or I would not have bought it, but that could have been doctored to fit my tastes.
 
originally posted by MLipton:

On a related note, Lyle, you and I are the only two people I've seen on teh Interwebs who've shown much love for Fer Servadou. Have you had any other wines beyond the Causse Marines Marcillac that featured an appealing rendition of it? It fair knocked me out when I tried some last year.

Mark Lipton
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No way! Braucal is awesome. I, too love Lo Sang del Pais.
 
originally posted by SFJoe:
Desvignes

The new generation is more involved at Desvignes, but the wines still seem quite classic. They make wines to age, not to flatter young, although they do a semi-carbonic fermentation with submerged cap. They ferment and age exclusively in concrete. They pump over at the end of fermentation to get the last sugars dry. Their Cte du Py is from the upper part of the slope with schist and slate over rotten rock, with 60-90 y.o. vines. Since 2006 they only plough it. The Javernieres is the lower slope of the Cte du Py. It has a lot of clay and can bake solid in the summer, making it hard to work.

The 2009 Cte du Py had a 14 day maceration and is a totally brilliant rich textured wine to keep. Im a buyer. They will bottle it after 10 months in tank.

The Javernieres has a gorgeous nose and fabulous richness. Its a deeper, darker wine than the Py, but both of them are quite excellent. In 2009 yields were only 30 hl/ha so the upper and lower parcels of Javernieres are blended and there will be only a single cuvee, much to the relief of the importers to the US.

The 2008 Cte du Py was bottled in 11/09. It was a short crop, only 25 hl/ha. Oddly, they didnt get an MLF until the 2009 harvest. They destemmed it all since the stems were injured by hail. Its ripe at 13% and a nice wine. 13%

The 2008 Javernieres will be bottled next month. It is pretty good stuff, but is a bit lean and shows its bones a bit. 12.8%.

In 2007 the Cte du Py has a big, big nose of lovely spicy fruit. Good balance, acidity, and fine tannins should see this wine into middle age. The Javernieres is deeper and richer. I should get a fewit should age well in the medium term.
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Lyle, Seth, Cliff, Cory,

Thanks so much for the recommendations. Maybe we could convince Levi to do a Fer Servadou-a-thon at his new gig? That might be enough to get me to fly out from here deep in flyover country!

"Marcillac" Mark Lipton
Fer Servadou slut in the making
 
originally posted by Lyle Fass:
originally posted by MLipton:
originally posted by Lyle Fass:

Coincidence. Not enough people over at other places who like to drink and talk about the wines I like. Primary reason I am here.

And for what it's worth I never posted my '08 Foillard notes here for the exact reason of what has transpired.
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On a related note, Lyle, you and I are the only two people I've seen on teh Interwebs who've shown much love for Fer Servadou. Have you had any other wines beyond the Causse Marines Marcillac that featured an appealing rendition of it? It fair knocked me out when I tried some last year.

Mark Lipton
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The VV bottling from Domaine du Cros is my top Fer. Not around much but a killer rendition. Cheap too. Under $17.
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Agreed. A step above the Causse Marines, IMO. But I'm glad to see options.
 
The VV bottling from Domaine du Cros is my top Fer.
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Do not the locals call this grape Mansois?

Not to destabilize the conversation or nothing. Never saw a "Mansois" for sale in the USA. Or in my cave.
 
Reducing a vintage to a single descriptive word is irresponsible. That is what I take issue with.
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Nope, paying any heed to one word vintage generalizations is what is irresponsible. Not making them.
 
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