Brun Beaujolais and Ppire going back to Regular Cork

originally posted by Steve Edmunds:
Dave; don't know what you mean by scalping issues. Can you elaborate?
My only experience with Gamay has been with wine from fairly young vines. It doesn't seem any more, or less, reductive than any of the other varieties with which I've worked.
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Sorry Steve....I meaning modification of a wines aromatic profile...a flattening or dulling effect...this I've only heard from certain winemakers...never seen it myself though
 
Joe, please update your blog.

Personally, I'd appreciate a Behind the Blog look at who "the sheriff" is, but any old update would be welcome.
 
originally posted by Dave Brookes:
originally posted by Steve Edmunds:
Dave; don't know what you mean by scalping issues. Can you elaborate?
My only experience with Gamay has been with wine from fairly young vines. It doesn't seem any more, or less, reductive than any of the other varieties with which I've worked.
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Sorry Steve....I meaning modification of a wines aromatic profile...a flattening or dulling effect...this I've only heard from certain winemakers...never seen it myself though
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Exactly my experience with SC. Can't recognize the wines, the adjustment is just not worth my time and money.

And this is coming from someone who had switched from LPs to CDs overnight.
 
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
I just opened one on Saturday: cork. The Clisson is a premium wine made - I believe - to take some age.
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Thanks, I hadn't opened any 07s yet, I was concerned about the long-term aging conditions.
 
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
I just opened one on Saturday: cork. The Clisson is a premium wine made - I believe - to take some age.
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Sure, you can age it. Don't miss drinking some now, it would be a mistake.

Oh, and fuck you newbie.
 
VLM, you actually want to drink some 07 Clisson now ?!

that's like trying to win the EPL with a bunch of 20-year olds.

Wait, that's the wrong thread. Never mind.

Back to Bordeaux.
 
OK, what did I miss?

And thanks for the welcome.

I sampled some of the 07 twice. It has qualities now that are enjoyable; qualities that will clearly be significantly different a few years on. And I believe significantly better.

At any rate I am glad to learn they aren't under fake-o-cork.
 
originally posted by Tristan Welles:
OK, what did I miss?

And thanks for the welcome.

I sampled some of the 07 twice. It has qualities now that are enjoyable; qualities that will clearly be significantly different a few years on. And I believe significantly better.

At any rate I am glad to learn they aren't under fake-o-cork.
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You've learned to decipher what goes as a welcome around here. You seem to have missed the longstanding belief that most posters are unreal figures invented by only a few others (usually Chris Coad, VLM or Joe Dressner). Given the occurrence of such figures in the past, thinking that posters do not correspond each to its own biological entity may not be a bad one.

You may also not yet have distinguished between actual discussion of what you said, and sniping and posturing for effect. Elsewhere sniping and posturing usually indicates some hidden or not so well hidden motive or at least some form of antagonism or self-aggrandizement. Here they are considered self-justifying pleasures.
 
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
I just opened one on Saturday: cork. The Clisson is a premium wine made - I believe - to take some age.
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Sure, you can age it. Don't miss drinking some now, it would be a mistake.

Oh, and fuck you newbie.
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Fuck you, dinosaur.

Muscadet and MSR Riesling I relish with age, but drunk young, to me, they are wasted. Others must choose for themselves. I'll own that the 07 Clisson direct from the bottle gives you a crystalline mouthful before it puts you off.
 
originally posted by Tristan Welles:
OK, what did I miss?

And thanks for the welcome.

I sampled some of the 07 twice. It has qualities now that are enjoyable; qualities that will clearly be significantly different a few years on. And I believe significantly better.

At any rate I am glad to learn they aren't under fake-o-cork.
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You don't have to drink it all now, but you should drink some. You should have bought enough to last for a while.

The elevage is extended, which makes the wine more approachable.
 
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
I just opened one on Saturday: cork. The Clisson is a premium wine made - I believe - to take some age.
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Sure, you can age it. Don't miss drinking some now, it would be a mistake.

Oh, and fuck you newbie.
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Fuck you, dinosaur.

Muscadet and MSR Riesling I relish with age, but drunk young, to me, they are wasted. Others must choose for themselves. I'll own that the 07 Clisson direct from the bottle gives you a crystalline mouthful before it puts you off.
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Do whatever you want. I've had enough older Olivier wine to make up my own mind. I doubt I'll let any live past their 10th birthday and most will go long before that.

I don't understand this idea of blindly aging everything and this fetishism with old wines.
 
originally posted by VLM:

Do whatever you want. I've had enough older Olivier wine to make up my own mind. I doubt I'll let any live past their 10th birthday and most will go long before that.

I don't understand this idea of blindly aging everything and this fetishism with old wines.
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I'll take all that '96 Clos des Briords off your hands.
 
originally posted by VLM:

I don't understand this idea of blindly aging everything and this fetishism with old wines.
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Hey, haven't you seen those photos of the '29 LHL Moelleux in high heels and a bustier? It'd make a believer out of even you.

Mark Lipton
 
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