Jay Miller
Jay Miller
An '05 'Chaillot' last week almost convinced me of your "drink Allemand young" position.
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An '05 'Chaillot' last week almost convinced me of your "drink Allemand young" position.
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by Cory Cartwright:
In my opinion aging muscadet kills the quality of muscadet that makes it fun to drink, and it starts to taste like cheese rind.
This is where I'm coming from. 1996 and 2002 are exceptions.
Have you had 2004 recently? I found it pretty brutal, in a good way, on release; then a year or so ago it had opened up beautifully, while still holding its focus.
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Briords outlives Pepiere, but in the few vintages that Pepiere has gone to distance, I've prefered the actual style. Briords does have a tendency to go on forever without much generosity. So given all this, Clisson seems like a win/win proposition for me.
originally posted by Jay Miller:
originally posted by VLM:
I don't understand this idea of blindly aging everything and this fetishism with old wines.
An '05 'Chaillot' last week almost convinced me of your "drink Allemand young" position.
Although, to be fair, the bottle of 1995 Reynards Jim and i shared a couple weeks back argues against that. That being said, the 1995s are in a good place right now.
originally posted by Cliff:
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by Cory Cartwright:
In my opinion aging muscadet kills the quality of muscadet that makes it fun to drink, and it starts to taste like cheese rind.
This is where I'm coming from. 1996 and 2002 are exceptions.
Have you had 2004 recently? I found it pretty brutal, in a good way, on release; then a year or so ago it had opened up beautifully, while still holding its focus.
I would say a couple of years ago. However, my 750s have been showing younger than my mags, which is strange. Probably because it was the first year of mags.
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by Jay Miller:
originally posted by VLM:
I don't understand this idea of blindly aging everything and this fetishism with old wines.
An '05 'Chaillot' last week almost convinced me of your "drink Allemand young" position.
Although, to be fair, the bottle of 1995 Reynards Jim and i shared a couple weeks back argues against that. That being said, the 1995s are in a good place right now.
Remember ye the rule of 15!
SteveTimko
Steve Timko
Just had the 1993 Domaine de la Louvetrie Muscadet de Svre-et-Maine Sur Lie Le Fief du Breil a few months ago. Quite rounded. I enjoyed it tremendously and I believe Larry Stein liked it too.
originally posted by Yixin:
MSR riesling deserves to be drunk young. The fruit and terroir expression is so joyous in the first year.
Most of the estate bottlings of MSR are screwcap for this reason. Haag, Knebel, Clemens Busch, Monchhoff, Steinmetz, Lieser, etc. They are indeed great young.
Ian Fitzsimmons
Ian Fitzsimmons
originally posted by Yixin:
MSR riesling deserves to be drunk young. The fruit and terroir expression is so joyous in the first year.
Just goes to show you: I worship the stuff mature, but I think its border-line revolting young.
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originally posted by Lyle Fass:
originally posted by Yixin:
MSR riesling deserves to be drunk young. The fruit and terroir expression is so joyous in the first year.
Most of the estate bottlings of MSR are screwcap for this reason. Haag, Knebel, Clemens Busch, Monchhoff, Steinmetz, Lieser, etc. They are indeed great young.
Just opened my last bottle of 1996 von Schubert QbA. Glorious.
Zachary Ross
Zachary Ross
So what's everyone doing with their Les Gras Moutons?
originally posted by .sasha:
originally posted by Lyle Fass:
originally posted by Yixin:
MSR riesling deserves to be drunk young. The fruit and terroir expression is so joyous in the first year.
Most of the estate bottlings of MSR are screwcap for this reason. Haag, Knebel, Clemens Busch, Monchhoff, Steinmetz, Lieser, etc. They are indeed great young.
Just opened my last bottle of 1996 von Schubert QbA. Glorious.
Yes, they are surely an exception. I would buy cases of the '98 QBA if I could find some.
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originally posted by Lyle Fass:
originally posted by .sasha:
originally posted by Lyle Fass:
originally posted by Yixin:
MSR riesling deserves to be drunk young. The fruit and terroir expression is so joyous in the first year.
Most of the estate bottlings of MSR are screwcap for this reason. Haag, Knebel, Clemens Busch, Monchhoff, Steinmetz, Lieser, etc. They are indeed great young.
Just opened my last bottle of 1996 von Schubert QbA. Glorious.
Yes, they are surely an exception. I would buy cases of the '98 QBA if I could find some.
be careful , there were two
originally posted by .sasha:
originally posted by Lyle Fass:
originally posted by .sasha:
originally posted by Lyle Fass:
originally posted by Yixin:
MSR riesling deserves to be drunk young. The fruit and terroir expression is so joyous in the first year.
Most of the estate bottlings of MSR are screwcap for this reason. Haag, Knebel, Clemens Busch, Monchhoff, Steinmetz, Lieser, etc. They are indeed great young.
Just opened my last bottle of 1996 von Schubert QbA. Glorious.
Yes, they are surely an exception. I would buy cases of the '98 QBA if I could find some.
be careful , there were two
Herrenberg and Abtsberg right? Or was it arcane number labeling?
Like I'll ever find it.
I would mostly drink. You could save a few.originally posted by Zachary Ross:
So what's everyone doing with their Les Gras Moutons?
originally posted by BJ:
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by Jay Miller:
originally posted by VLM:
I don't understand this idea of blindly aging everything and this fetishism with old wines.
An '05 'Chaillot' last week almost convinced me of your "drink Allemand young" position.
Although, to be fair, the bottle of 1995 Reynards Jim and i shared a couple weeks back argues against that. That being said, the 1995s are in a good place right now.
Remember ye the rule of 15!
I'm a fan. No more than 20 for sure. Except Chave Hermitage the way it used to be.
originally posted by SFJoe:
I would mostly drink. You could save a few.originally posted by Zachary Ross:
So what's everyone doing with their Les Gras Moutons?
Drink and hold.
Right now it seems more structured than the 2007 Clisson, but with less depth.
That Gras Mouton has turned out awesome, I must admit, I thought it was sort of a weak sister when we first tasted it. That is most definitely not true. It's a hell of a wine. Maybe even shades Briords in 2008, at least right now.
Ian Fitzsimmons
Ian Fitzsimmons
Pepiere or Branger?