How to tell vintage of Larmandier-Bernier's Terre de Vertus?

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Peter Czyryca

Peter Czyryca
In reading notes on L-B's TdV, I understand it's essentially a single vineyard vintage wine that they market as a NV.

How does one go about telling the vintage, any special code on the bottle or cork?
 
originally posted by Nicolas Mestre:
Well, it's not easy. Does it have the new label with the green hills on the background or the old label with the brown dirt?
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Nicolas - thanks for the post, brown dirt. :)
 
Peter Liem says: bottles have a code etched on the glass near the base of the bottle. For example: LBTDV60708. TDV for Terre de Vertus, 6 being 2006, 0708 disgorgement in July 08.
 
when larmandier bernier was with terry theise there was a disgorgement date on the back, but no vintage information (they are now imported by louis/dressner). i've never heard that it is a single vintage bottling. an older theise champagne catalogue would not doubt have the answer.

gaston chiquet's blanc de blancs d'ay is single vintage bottling, but not labeled thusly.
 
originally posted by robert ames:
when larmandier bernier was with terry theise there was a disgorgement date on the back, but no vintage information (they are now imported by louis/dressner). i've never heard that it is a single vintage bottling. an older theise champagne catalogue would not doubt have the answer.

gaston chiquet's blanc de blancs d'ay is single vintage bottling, but not labeled thusly.
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Sharon - thx.

Robert - I've read in a couple places, Edwards latest Champagne tome being one, that it's not always a single vintage, but usually is. I think all of the Thiese catalogs are gonzo from the web now.
 
Yes, very reasonable. I would not say compromised; just not as complex, as the wine hasn't spent as much time on its lees. It really is financial pressure that leads smaller growers to release bottlings earlier. Larger houses hover around 5 to 7 years. Someone like Selosse waits 10.
 
Prior to posting my query here I also emailed L-B with my question, Sophie was kind enough to reply, confirming everything mentioned above.

If it is not too old, you can find a code on the glass at the bottom of the bottle, not on the label.
It says : LTDV X YZ
where X is the vintage,
Y the month of disgorgment,
and Z the year of disgorgment.
Let me know if you need more information and have a pleasant time enjoying Terre de Vertus !
Best regards
Sophie Larmandier
 
I think I drank a 2003 last night.

It's a brown label Louis/Dressner. The engravings on the bottom don't include a date. On the back it says Ltdv 3 and nothing else.

I enjoyed the first half of the bottle a great deal - I thought it was elegant and austere while still keeping some of the fruit intensity of some of their other bottlings, in a more focused and chiseled form. The second half felt more like typical acceptable blanc de blancs though, certainly pleasant to drink but not inspiring.
 
The Larmandier-Bernier Terre de Vertus in its current incarnation has always hailed from a single vintage to my knowledge. It used to actually be vintage dated and had a slightly different name, but that changed towards the end of the 90s. Definitely an interesting cuvee from year to year.

Chiquet's Blanc de Blancs d'Ay is almost always from a single vintage in 750 mL format, but not always. It is rare when it is blended with more than one year, but it has been. The Mags are vintage dated and are essentially a different wine so you have to remember that to.
 
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