1999 Jasmin Cote Rotie

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Cristian Dezso

Cristian Dezso
is closed for business. At least my bottle is. Every now and then some grassy aromas peak out, but really not much else. Plus some oakiness, but I am not sure if it is really oak or just syrah being syrah - Thor? Anyhow, the Verset last night was in a different class.
 
originally posted by Cristian Dezso:
1999 Jasmin Cote Rotieis closed for business. At least my bottle is. Every now and then some grassy aromas peak out, but really not much else. Plus some oakiness, but I am not sure if it is really oak or just syrah being syrah - Thor? Anyhow, the Verset last night was in a different class.
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That Verset has been the most open Verset I've ever followed.

I don't know the Jasmin well, but Jimbo swears by it.
 
originally posted by VLM:
I don't know the Jasmin well, but Jimbo swears by it.
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The year the '99 was released, I bought the entire allocation for NC. 'Still have a few mags.
I have enjoyed every bottle but haven't had it recently.
Best, Jim
 
originally posted by Florida Jim:
originally posted by VLM:
I don't know the Jasmin well, but Jimbo swears by it.
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The year the '99 was released, I bought the entire allocation for NC. 'Still have a few mags.
I have enjoyed every bottle but haven't had it recently.
Best, Jim
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I had the '99 Jasmin back in '05 when on sabbatical. At that time, it was still very primary but showing signs of being true to Cote-Rotie. IIRC, Jasmin does use some new oak, but not usually to the extent of obscuring the fruit.

Mark Lipton
 
There was less new oak previously, according to Yapp Bros. I have found the oak more apparent from '01 onwards but it's not an upwards trend. Caveat is that I drink very little Jasmin nowadays - maybe 3-6 bottles a year.
 
originally posted by Yixin:
There was less new oak previously, according to Yapp Bros. I have found the oak more apparent from '01 onwards but it's not an upwards trend. Caveat is that I drink very little Jasmin nowadays - maybe 3-6 bottles a year.
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Actually, as I recall, it was in the mid-1990s that the oak was up a little higher.
 
originally posted by Yixin:
I have found the oak more apparent from '01 onwards
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JLL mentions a larger than usual barrel purchase in '01 and a reversion to form, but his book is now a few years old.
 
When we visited him in 08, he was clearly using some new oak. I wouldn't characterize him as very traditional, more in between.
 
originally posted by BJ:
When we visited him in 08, he was clearly using some new oak. I wouldn't characterize him as very traditional, more in between.
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Is it still "modern" to use some new barrels in Cote Rotie?
 
originally posted by VLM:


Is it still "modern" to use some new barrels in Cote Rotie?
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You seems never been at the "march d'Ampuis" !

Best regards
pierre-alain benoit
 
originally posted by Florida Jim:
originally posted by VLM:
I don't know the Jasmin well, but Jimbo swears by it.
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The year the '99 was released, I bought the entire allocation for NC. 'Still have a few mags.
I have enjoyed every bottle but haven't had it recently.
Best, Jim
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That must have set you back.
 
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
originally posted by Florida Jim:
originally posted by VLM:
I don't know the Jasmin well, but Jimbo swears by it.
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The year the '99 was released, I bought the entire allocation for NC. 'Still have a few mags.
I have enjoyed every bottle but haven't had it recently.
Best, Jim
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That must have set you back.
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At the time, I was friends with the distribtor for the state. They didn't have enough to offer it statewide so I "saved" them from having to allocate.
It is one of those times when buying wine that I actually bought "enough."
Best, Jim
 
originally posted by Claude Kolm:
originally posted by Yixin:
There was less new oak previously, according to Yapp Bros. I have found the oak more apparent from '01 onwards but it's not an upwards trend. Caveat is that I drink very little Jasmin nowadays - maybe 3-6 bottles a year.
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Actually, as I recall, it was in the mid-1990s that the oak was up a little higher.
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I only really started drinking it from the '94 vintage onwards, and by then that vintage was a few years in bottle. I thought the '98 was marginally more marked by oak compared to either of its siblings, and then from '01 onwards there was a bit more oak in every single vintage. Going further back, I have less experience with the wines, but they struck me as both leaner and less oak-influenced. It's tough to make a comparison since most of them were drunk with a decade or more in bottle.
 
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