2007 Passopisciaro

speaking of sicily...Levi,(or anyone)any opinion on the Terre Nere Etna Rosso "Prephylloxera"?

I can get the 2007 at a pretty nice discount. it's well stored too. Would you bite?
 
re cos and occhipinti: i don't think i could pick one to be better than the other. i generally find cos to have more earth and body while occhipinti has more fruit and is more ethereal, if a distinction had to be made. both producers make me very happy.

re terre nere prephylloxera - too bloody pricey.
 
Occhipinti is better when it's not ruined by brett. COS is more volatile, but my negative reaction to VA is much more extreme than others'. This from a sample of not very many one-to-one comparisons, so take it for the little it's worth.
 
Sicilia, with its Nerello, its Frappato, and yes, its Nero D, is a magical place, although I gave up trying to convince people of this for my own mental health.
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You mean with your charm and gift of suasion you couldn't get people to try these Southern gems? Unbelievable. And here I thought "if you show them, they will come". Perhaps it only works if your name is Moses.
 
I love all the wines being mentioned for differnt reasons; COS, Occhi,Passo (sometimes even Terre Nere). Someone mentioned the Palari, Rosso del Soprano. My thoughts on it are that I love the Faro (its big brother) which i have had many bottles of, several aged over a decade (which i think benefited the wine) and i always find great drinking complexity. I have had less experience with the RdS but I have found it sometimes less than inspiring and often lacking a little acid and just a bit too much chocolate raspberry for my liking. I think both are well made wines but i see a major departure in style from anything coming out of South Central (Vittoria that is, not LA). Geraci's is certainly the best example ive had from the Messina area but it is a bit darker and deeper than the 'light and bright' stuff from COS (Frappato, Cerasuolo, etc), Occhipinti (same) and Salvo Foti of Gulfi and Frank the Tank.
 
COS Nero d'Avola examples would seem to leave light and bright behind.

Rosso del Soprano '99 was a good example of ageable and layered complexity.

Bonavita makes a Faro worth a look for the same dough (or less) as Palari's second wine.
 
Yes, yes. If you want me to list all the exceptions i can try but i was simply refering back to the light and bright style wines that these producers make. Clearly there are myriad exceptions. Part of my point, and maybe you'll agree, is that i find the Palari wines quite a departure from etna and vittoria wines based on nerello mascalese/cappuccio (or similar grapes) which have that tendancy to be on the "lighter and brighter" side of the spectrum (again, from certain producers and certainly not all their wines). I think it is a welcome departure and an interesting counterpoint to the wines from other parts of the island.
 
originally posted by Matteo Mollo:
Yes, yes. If you want me to list all the exceptions i can try but i was simply refering back to the light and bright style wines that these producers make. Clearly there are myriad exceptions. Part of my point, and maybe you'll agree, is that i find the Palari wines quite a departure from etna and vittoria wines based on nerello mascalese/cappuccio (or similar grapes) which have that tendancy to be on the "lighter and brighter" side of the spectrum (again, from certain producers and certainly not all their wines). I think it is a welcome departure and an interesting counterpoint to the wines from other parts of the island.
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I think a part of the reason for the difference is the addition in the wines of Palari some Nero d'Avola (referred to as Calabrese). And there is probably some Grenache cousin in there as well.
 
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