TN: 2005 Overnoy-Houillon Pupillin

originally posted by SFJoe:
originally posted by Scott Kraft:
originally posted by SFJoe:
originally posted by lucertoran:

Joe you better cook with your 05 or make some Kalimuxo.
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Huh. Your bottles must have suffered in transit. I'll give you a fair price for them.
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when an i-banker offers a "fair price", run for the hills.
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Hell, I'll give you a fairness opinion to go with it.
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And when he offers you a "fairness opinion", there is no undisclosed location secure enough to keep your money in your own wallet.
 
originally posted by Lyle Fass:
TN: 2005 Overnoy-Houillon PupillinThis is a wine I adore. The nose was fascinating and had all types of non-fruit aromas. Decaying, foresty, some red fruits and some dead/dying flowers on the nose. There was great focus to the aromas and they wafted. The palate on the other hand, was a different story. It seemed like it was fading. The fruit was short, and the finish was short and astringent. Really not a good showing. Apparently the winery held it back and it was just released. Someone else commented that last bottle they had of this (two weeks before) had more of a structure and seemed more alive, but also added it gave the impression of a closed wine. Obviously there is some bottle variation going on here, but this bottle seemed like it would have been better two years ago. Does anybody have experience aging this wine?
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Happened to have a bottle of this last night. I agree, for the most part, with what you're saying. The nose, which was lively and forthcoming, gave no indication that the palate would be nearly non-existent; just fell off a cliff. This was how it showed just after opening. I went back to try another taste about an hour or so later and it seemed to have bulked up a touch and gotten a bit deeper in that time. Not a lot mind you, but more so than it showed at first. So, with that, I'm going with SFJoe and holding mine for a just little while. But, what do I know. The only other Overnoy I've had was the '08 red which was markedly better than the '05. I'd definitely keep some of those for a while. Cory, did you try the '08? Was the '09 that much better?
 
i had this saturday night and thought it showed pretty well.

both me and my drinking partner thought it pleasantly sour, kind of like a kriek or a sour flemish or belgian ale. no oxidation at all. with time it gained some weight and was really nice with a braised game bird over pasta.
 
originally posted by Cory Cartwright:
09Is awesome. So awesome. How's that for a tasting note? The '08 and '07 were both better by far compared to the '05.
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Good enough for me. Nice to see we are in agreement on '08 >'05.
 
originally posted by lars makie:
originally posted by Lyle Fass:
TN: 2005 Overnoy-Houillon PupillinThis is a wine I adore. The nose was fascinating and had all types of non-fruit aromas. Decaying, foresty, some red fruits and some dead/dying flowers on the nose. There was great focus to the aromas and they wafted. The palate on the other hand, was a different story. It seemed like it was fading. The fruit was short, and the finish was short and astringent. Really not a good showing. Apparently the winery held it back and it was just released. Someone else commented that last bottle they had of this (two weeks before) had more of a structure and seemed more alive, but also added it gave the impression of a closed wine. Obviously there is some bottle variation going on here, but this bottle seemed like it would have been better two years ago. Does anybody have experience aging this wine?
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Happened to have a bottle of this last night. I agree, for the most part, with what you're saying. The nose, which was lively and forthcoming, gave no indication that the palate would be nearly non-existent; just fell off a cliff. This was how it showed just after opening. I went back to try another taste about an hour or so later and it seemed to have bulked up a touch and gotten a bit deeper in that time. Not a lot mind you, but more so than it showed at first. So, with that, I'm going with SFJoe and holding mine for a just little while. But, what do I know. The only other Overnoy I've had was the '08 red which was markedly better than the '05. I'd definitely keep some of those for a while. Cory, did you try the '08? Was the '09 that much better?
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Lars,

Thanks for the note. If I had some, I'd hold onto some too for hope.
 
originally posted by SFJoe:
originally posted by Scott Kraft:
originally posted by SFJoe:
originally posted by lucertoran:

Joe you better cook with your 05 or make some Kalimuxo.
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Huh. Your bottles must have suffered in transit. I'll give you a fair price for them.
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when an i-banker offers a "fair price", run for the hills.
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Hell, I'll give you a fairness opinion to go with it.
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How much for the bringdown?
 
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