Jeff Grossman
Jeff Grossman
My one bottle of Le Muraglie was unexciting. I love Les Cretes Coteau la Tour. Grosjean is good. I'm excited at the prospect of a good mountain wine.
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Good Co-ops
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Plus I hear the guy is starting to become knowledgeable in wine...originally posted by Yixin:
Isn't there some Basque co-op which was quite good. Nekeas not my style, but I haven't tasted any for some time.
By the way, congrats on banner 16. Fascinating game in which your compatriot did well.
I can't fathom any very good Basque co-op. Well, some pretty good ones in Rioja Alavesa: Luberri, Unin de Cosecheros Labastida (Solagen).
georg lauer
georg lauer
originally posted by Seth Hill:
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
Just ran out and bought a bottle on your rec. I'll report back when it's turn comes up (maybe this weekend but most likely next week).originally posted by Matteo Mollo:
La Kiuva is a small one in the south of the valle d'aosta (arnad-montjovet). Like 8 contributing growers and a small production of wonderfully typical and affordable wines of altitude.
La Kiuva is my type of wine. It holds its own with recent vintages of Voyat's Le Muraglie, which is pretty remarkable when you compare the respective $17 and $50 price tags.
Against an ancient bottle of Voyat the likes of which Neil Rosenthal says he'll consume on his deathbed? Dunno. But would be happy to compare (no malice to Neil meant).
Hmm, makes me thinking. Will be driving through Valle d'Aosta next week and did not plan on much stopping....maybe I should change plans a bit.
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
My one bottle of Le Muraglie was unexciting. I love Les Cretes Coteau la Tour. Grosjean is good. I'm excited at the prospect of a good mountain wine.
La Muraglie wasn't mind-blowing, but it was good. Not entirely sure it's worth the tariff except for the associated lore (though it was a nice pairing at Franny's, and $15 over Astor). I have an even pricier bottle of their sweet stuff, so hopefully there's not an even steeper diminished return.
In a funny twist, I thought Les Cretes was a co-op until recently.
John Ritchie
John Ritchie
Donnas in the Valle d'Aosta is great, but doesn't have anywhere close to BIB prices.
Jeff Grossman
Jeff Grossman
Tonight is its night.originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
Just ran out and bought a bottle on your rec. I'll report back when it's turn comes up (maybe this weekend but most likely next week).originally posted by Matteo Mollo:
La Kiuva is a small one in the south of the valle d'aosta (arnad-montjovet). Like 8 contributing growers and a small production of wonderfully typical and affordable wines of altitude.
I am _so_ loving it. Not a big deal wine. Just cassis, cranberry, and unripe raspberries bouncing down the hillside over stones. Maybe a little moss. Lots of cold running water. Very satisfactory.
Thank you, Matteo.
kirk wallace
kirk wallace
Sharon Bowman
Sharon Bowman
Hut?
Claude Kolm
Claude Kolm
There's plenty, plenty. Just staying in the Nahe, Schfer-Frhlich (2fer) and Emrich-Schnleber, but take a stroll down the VDP list of producers (http://www.vdp.de/de/winzer/liste-der-winzer/) and you'll see lots more (z.B., von Hvel, Karthuserhof, Schloss Schnborn, usw), not to mention non-VDP like Mnchhof.
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
Hut?
Tch, tch, winegrrrl. You know your diacritical marks better than that. While that looks like an umlaut, it's actually a trma or diresis. Different use, different name.
Mark Lipton
Sharon Bowman
Sharon Bowman
Oh, scrap my response. I couldn't get the umlaut over the N for Spinal Tap.
Not that they produce wine (yet).
Not that they produce wine (yet).
Steve Edmunds
Steve Edmunds
I remember a thoroughly delicious ros from the Co-op in Visan a few years back. Does that count?
originally posted by Steve Edmunds:
I remember a thoroughly delicious ros from the Co-op in Visan a few years back. Does that count?
I remember a drinkable Spanish red from the Berkeley Co-op, Steve (Shattuck Ave location, no less). Does that count?
Mark Lipton
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John Roberts
John Roberts
Carema, Gallura, Santadi, Castelmaure...
BTW, I retire Luberri. This has gone private, like Artadi did years ago. The Monje Amestoy family is now in charge. Just tasted their marvelously unspoofulated (and un-counterspoofulated, which is what I call the extensive cellar treatment that Lpez de Heredia wines undergo to become Lpez de Heredia wines) Biga Crianza 2007, an earthy, raspberryish, fresh red with very little oak apparent which retails for 7.50 in Spain. All Rioja Alavesa tempranillo. Imported by Andre Tamers of DeMaison Selections, BTW.
originally posted by VS:
(and un-counterspoofulated, which is what I call the extensive cellar treatment that Lpez de Heredia wines undergo to become Lpez de Heredia wines)
Good term.
Biga Crianza 2007, an earthy, raspberryish, fresh red with very little oak apparent which retails for 7.50 in Spain. All Rioja Alavesa tempranillo. Imported by Andre Tamers of DeMaison Selections, BTW.
Damn. Retails for right around $20 here.
I've been drinking the Seis myself. That price sounds more like it, since it's the cheapest wine we get here. I think the Biga sees some wood.
Matteo Mollo
Matteo Mollo
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
Tonight is its night.originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
Just ran out and bought a bottle on your rec. I'll report back when it's turn comes up (maybe this weekend but most likely next week).originally posted by Matteo Mollo:
La Kiuva is a small one in the south of the valle d'aosta (arnad-montjovet). Like 8 contributing growers and a small production of wonderfully typical and affordable wines of altitude.
I am _so_ loving it. Not a big deal wine. Just cassis, cranberry, and unripe raspberries bouncing down the hillside over stones. Maybe a little moss. Lots of cold running water. Very satisfactory.
Thank you, Matteo.
Glad you enjoyed it as much as i do.
Oh -absolutely. It's a crianza which legally means, in Rioja, at least 12 months in oak and 12 months in bottle before release. But there are no regulations on the amount of new oak (if any) or the degree of oak toast. Faustino Lpez Monje gives this a very unobtrusive oak treatment.originally posted by VLM:
I think the Biga sees some wood.